The Langford Robinson superfight

Some were definitely better than Langord, maybe even all

 

Don't embarrass yourself. Turpin couldn't even dream of being better than Langford's.

 

Turpin would beat the **** out of Langford.
Early 1900s guys stand no chance, they are too primitive and nowhere near skilled enough.

 

A lot of folks selling Langford short , he is a harder hitting more technical Lamotta with a longer reach than sugar ray robinson, Can he get sugar a long the ropes I think so .Can he beat up Sugar in the clinch I also think so, can you jab at Langford all day ,no He parries and counters every time. I see no route for Sugar to win and he gets stopped(considering Langford can stop even bigger guys than him )

 

So it seems that size advantage only matters when you decide to, right?

 

What size advantage ?! Turpin was bigger.
Also, size matters when boxers are from the same era.
A modern great like Canelo could beat up HWs from the 1900s, since he's way more skilled than them.

 

Taller, not bigger. Is Joe Louis bigger than Mike Tyson?

 

Another thing that makes it tricky is at the lower weights (against Gams and Walcott), I believe he fought at range a lot more. The lack of footage of Langford at the lower weights makes this harder.

 

Depends on what you understand by bigger.
But your example is not ok. It's just like saying Toney is a big as Tyson cause he got fat.
Langford put on fat, that doesn't make him bigger.

 

Langford was cut and lean above 160 lbs. He was above 160 lbs in all footage we have of him. He was in his prime above 170 lbs as well.

 

I'm not sure who wins this matchup, but at the end of the day, it's REALLY close at certain weights. I think it's reasonable what some have said on who wins where. What i will comment on, is the notion that Sam beats anybody around 175. While I agree for the most part about him being top top tier in that range, I actually give Jack Johnson good odds to beat him. When he did beat him, he was around that range, and if the fight happens when it could have, I think Johnson wins, better Sam or not. No doubt Sam filled into his body, and was a more powerful and experienced version than what Jack beat, but you don't give a master like Johnson knowledge like the first fight provided, and expect it not ot make a difference, it would. A one of fight, Sam's odds get better, but as it was, I'd pick Johnson to prevail.