The last Emperor's last fight, Fedor announces retirement!

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Pretty sure 205ers like Franklin, Vitor, Sonnen, Griffin Irvin & Cote are bigger in frame than a guy who spent 5 years of his career fighting at 170 Morono

Well rounded is subjective, he has subbed guys when he has to, but his bread and butter is kodding people. Fedor is the reverse, he's kodded his fair share, but submissions and gnp are his forte

And he hasnt fought in different sports because he's a professional Mixed Martial Arts fighter. Credit to Fedor for his achievements in Sambo, but you dont count those as part of his Professional record in MMA. Im mean James Toney would be an ATG in MMA if you added his boxing record

I highly anticipate you dismissing these points as zombieism

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Still in his peak years and retired a year later? atsch. When people retire it usually means that they are no longer in their peak.




Fedor is indeed the GOAT, his achievements and accomplishments in MMA and as a combat fighter shows this.

*A Silva is 31-4 in MMA and 1-1 in boxing and done nothing else of note in anything else.

*GSP is 22-2 in MMA and basically zilch doing anything of note outside MMA.

*Fedor on the other hand has 34-4 in MMA, 2x bronze in Russian Judo, 2x bronze in world judo, 7 gold and 2 bronze in Russian sambo, 1 gold in European sambo, 3 gold and 1 bronze in world sambo. Fedor was already an Olympic level Judo fighter in the 90's he left because he didnt get in the Olympic squad, mainly because of politics.

 

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And still Fedor wins out yet again :hi::hi::hi:.

And the skillset? well Fedor is easily has a more well rounded skillset.

 

He certainly went on a run of showing how well-rounded his ability to lose a fight by stoppage was. :good

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I guess I finally made it on to Morono's ignore list, only took me 18 months too

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I love Fedor but he should've retired after his defeat against Antonio Silva. (and Nogueira should've retired after his first defeat against Frank Mir imo)...and while i'm at it...crocop should've retired in 2006 , right after his grand prix victory....Nogueira was already starting to fade even after his rematch against Barnett. and that was also in 2006.

 

I know a few boxers that shouldd;ve retired after winning there first half dozen fights too

Cro Cop was exposed, Big Nog really good fighter but not invincible and Fedor a great fighter in an era that was still finding it's feet and full of corruption.

 

What he is trying to say is any loses outside 2006 don't really count

 

a guy who used to soundly beat the likes of Aerts , Bonjasky , feitosa , bernardo in kickboxing...and then see the same getting owned by the likes of Gonzaga , Schaub , Mir by KO....is as exposed as Tyson against McBride , Willliams or Lewis... And hell i'll even add Junior dos santos in that list...

Santos is a good striker , but compared to prime Aerts , Hoost or even Greco ?...Been there , done that...His striking is good for mma but that's it. Looking back though...(and knowing that Santos is the champ today)... He did good...(at least compared to his fight against Gonzaga or Schaub).

But don't tell me he was "exposed"... You people either know nothing about mma or you're all hypocrites. The type who'll praise Cormier for owning the strikeforce finalist Barnett but at the same time , forget that Crocop owned that guy in a more dominant fashion several years ago...On 2 or 3 occasions.


If you hate the guy , just admit it...But don't say he was "exposed"..that's too easy.

 

Fedor was well worn though, he surely was passed his best.
Perhaps more so mentally than physically.

Besides, losing to Werdum isn't exactly shameful, who stood toe to toe with Overeem, and many thought he won.

Bigfoot is also no slouch, and the first round was very competitive. The second round wasn't....

Hendo, well, that was just freaky. But full credit to Dan.

C'mon Kel, nothing wrong a with a bit of nut suckling. :tong

I don't reckon they are, but they're are all certainly very close.

It's hard to think of anyone more worthy.

 

Can we suggest that he was "roided"? :yep

I don't hate the guy. Cro Cop is an action-oriented fighter, sems a good sportsman (Pat Barry fight) and he speaks well for himself when he addresses the crowd.

I've only seen a couple of Cro-Cop's fights in PRIDE, but he looks like a completely different fighter. In the UFC he looked deflated. Weaker, slower and less explosive.

Some of it is no doubt due to age and accumulated damage, but he was only in his early 30s when he crossed over. Isn't it a bit convenient that ALL of these PRIDE guys - Cro Cop, Shogun, Wandy, Fedor, Big Nog, Rampage, seemingly ALL of them - are spent forces and shells of themselves by the time they hit 32 and leave PRIDE?

What's up with these ATG-level legends of the sport who are all washed up so quickly? :huh

I mean, Cro Cop lost to Fedor in August 2005. So he's in his prime there.

One year after that, in September 2006, he KOs both Wanderlei AND Josh Barnett in the same night to win the PRIDE open weight tourney, undoubtably the highlight of his career. No suggestion of being over the hill there, quite the opposite in fact.

One year after that, in September 2007, he's in the UFC, and he's 32 years old and he can't beat Kongo or Gonzaga. atsch In fact he's the only name fighter either of them have ever beaten. And they both did it within a year of him winning the PRIDE GP, leaving PRIDE and fighting under far stricter and less corrupt regulation. :blood

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The GOAT shouldn't be washed up at age 33. And Fedor isn't. He lost because he'd gotten lazy from beating up no-hopers for the last 5 years, and then he stepped up in opposition again and found that the sport had evolved. :good

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