The Legacy of Zsolt Erdei

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  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Below are some quotes from an interview that boxing tribune conducted with Zsolt Erdei:

    http://www.boxingtribune.com/index.php?go=article&id=1869

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    Basically these quotes sadden me. Erdei has no interest in being recognized as the best. I can no longer lump all the blame on Unviersum for his crappy opponents, Zsolt simply lacks ambition.

    In the first quote, he hypes up a beyond undeserving opponent. In the second quote, he states that he has no interest in what the press think of him, and that he believes he has some sort of a legacy against legitimate opposition. The third quote confirms this somewhat: his only goal left is not to lose (as opposed to getting big fights, etc). In the fourth quote he labels his 2 controversial (and rather average) fights with a (at the time) untested 20 fight novice as "legendary".

    Unlike the previous linear champion Michalczewski, Erdei has not fought any A-class Lightheavyweights, not fought any other champs, and not called any of his rivals out, thereby failing to put pressure on his promoter.

    Now a quick look at this legacy that Erdei seems rather satisfied with:

    -Won title against Julio Gonzalez. Tough fighter who won a controversial SD against a 35 year old Miczalczewski and a controversial MD against Glen Johnson. Gonzo was a good pressure fighter but his boxing skills were shite (see recent fights vs Clinton Woods) and he did not have the big punch to catch Erdei with. Good win but not great. Gonzo was a top 5 LHW because he was in the right place and right time (caught an aging great in DM). Note: this was Erdei's only top 10 opponent!!!

    -Defended against Alejandro Lakatus. Average boxer who had already 3 losses to DM (KTFO), Michailenko, and Garay.

    -Defended against Hugo Hernan Garay twice. Both fights were controversial decisions. Heading into their fights Garay was a total unknown, in nobody's top ten. Ring magazine for example took him into their top ten only after he had given a good account of himself against Erdei. Garay was still young and perhaps Erdei's fans hoped he would win a belt or something at 175 to boost Erdei's status, however he just suffered a DQ loss last week against a journeyman in Argentina. Titleshots look unlikely now.

    -Defended against Mehdi Sahnoune. Natural supermiddle who came up to LHW to beat old french stablemate for WBA belt. Dominated and KTFOed in first defence by Silvio Branco, who lost his next 2 to Thomas Ulrich (KO) and Fabrice Tiozzo (MD). Sahnoune never fought since.

    -Defended against Paul Murdoch...a total can.

    -Defended against stablemate Thomas Ulrich, only after Adamek had brutally KTFOed him. Ulrich was in Ring mag's top ten before facing Adamek, but rightfully dropped out after the loss.

    -Defended against Danny Santiago...a near-total can, one decent win over Elvir Muriqi.

    -Defended against George Blades...another total can without any decent wins.

    Overall we have one good win and not much else, if Erdei believes this is "enough good opponents" he's sorely mistaken and is truly disgracing the linear championship that he holds, imo.
     
  2. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow good post. People like him are what's wrong with boxing. Going undefeated against shitty opposition is not what being a champions about. This guy is a joke and doesnt deserve a belt. The WBO and any other organization for that matter should strip fighters who dont step up.
     
  3. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Im not a fan. I really wanted him and Adamek to fight for WBC and WBO unification when Adamek was champ. Adamek would of exposed him.

    Zsolt should fight someone with a good resume...

    He called out Roy Jones at one point didn't he? Also Hopkins? Please correct me if im wrong.
     
  4. rvk2007

    rvk2007 He's Back! Full Member

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    he's nothing but a belt hijacker.
     
  5. LockDog387

    LockDog387 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like the above poster said, he's nothing more then a belt holder. If he anyone thinks that's he's a legite champion then he should fight Dawson. Of course he doesn't want to fight Dawson because he will get his ass kicked throughly.
     
  6. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    The guys like Erdei and Maccarinelli are the ones who insult the warriors who put it all on the line and fight the best. They're more like professional sportsmen, not fighters. They watch the carnage from afar while fighting C-class fighters under the guise of being called champions. Total frauds.
     
  7. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thing is Erdei isnt a bad fighter, but Ive said this before his heart is not in it, he does not enjoy being a professional fighter.

    You can see this in his previous stamina problems, in the very fact he fights at 175 when he probably could easily make 168 at least, in the way he fights only just doing enough a lot of the time, in his choice of opposition and now in what he wants from the future.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I've seen some of his fights and he is a world class fighter. I just don't think he wants to challenge himself against the very best, which is a shame.
     
  9. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    I posted a thread months ago questioning the WBO organization as a bogus body because of the quality of their Champions. It seems that Champions were fighting those that are NOT THE TOP 10. Examples are Guzman and Erdei.
     
  10. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    That's all fine and good as long as he keeps his mouth shut and doesn't go around trumpeting himself as the man at 175. If he wants to fight throwaway fighters and journeymen that's his choice but he should do it quietly and avoid making himself out to be something he's not. That being an ambitious fighter and a true champion.
     
  11. Piffer

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  12. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another bad thing is that Erdei gets sold by ZDF as a great champion to millions of viewers. He headlines huge events by fighting journeymen. The public, the majority of which doesn't know much about boxing, then gets to believe that he's that great and beats top competition. I can understand he's a national hero in hungary, but I can't understand why he's so popular in Germany. People start to open their eyes though. The worst thing is that Erdei actually IS a good fighter and could beat far better competition, if only he wanted... what a shame.
     
  13. LockDog387

    LockDog387 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some of those German fighters have a reputation of being protected against legit opponents. It's too bad he doesn't want to face Chad Dawson though.
     
  14. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At least Abraham fought Miranda and Eastman and Sturm fought DelaHoya and Griffin.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Guzman was poorly managed in the early stages of his career, was ducked a lot later, when he became a force, and was plagued by injury when it all looked like it was coming together...he never had the backing to make any of the big, dangerous fights that he was abolutely desperate for. I am not sure you can compare Erdei with Joan Guzman.