The Lightweight Division and my top 10 list

1-Joe Gans
2-Benny Leonard
3-Roberto Duran/Ike Williams
5-Henry Armstrong
No order now
Carlos Ortiz
Pernell Whitaker
Lou Ambers
Barney Ross
Tony Canzoneri

My favorites are Gans, Leonard, Williams, Laguna, Beau Jack and Whitaker...

 

Barney Ross what a man hollywood need to get their act together and make a biopic.

Duran will be talked of for thousands of years.

Ike williams awesome.Shame theres not a lot of footage

Who doesnt like alexis arguello

 

Gawd I love the lightweights. Williams, Mosley, Jose Luis Castillo and Pea were my faves at the weight. Oscar too of course

1. Benny Leonard
2. Roberto Duran
3. Joe Gans
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Pernell Whitaker
6. Ike Williams
7. Carlos Ortiz
8. Tony Canzoneri
9. Barney Ross
10. JC Chavez

 

It's a shame there aren't many fights with Joyce, Williams, Bobcat and Jack around. ****ing hell that's a **** off, especially when there is footage of fights 20 years before their time! And we get nothing :verysad

 

10 Sammy Angott
9 Julio Cesar Chavez
8 Bob Montgomery
7 Ike Williams
6 Battling Nelson
5 Joe Gans
4 Pernell Whitaker
3 Henry Armstrong
2 Benny Leonard
1 Roberto Duran

Mentions: Jack McAuliffe, George Lavigne, Frank Erne, Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Lou Ambers, Beau Jack, Jimmy Carter, Carlos Ortiz, Ken Buchanan, Esteban DeJesus, Guts Ishimatsu (Ishimatsu Suzuki), Alexis Arguello, Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Hector Camacho Snr, Oscar de la Hoya, Shane Mosley, Steve Johnson, Jose Luis Castillo and Floyd Mayweather Jr

 

in4m me if im wrong but didn't Canzoneri & McLarnin draw d color line ?

also , 2 avoid ranking d pro wrestling era along with d more documented and regulated era , i will not try 2 include them , nor armstrong , joyce , angott and a few of their successors because i and u just don't know how real their records really r .


however on blind based on paper outcomes it is :
1. Henry Armstrong
2. Willie Joyce
3. Sammy Angott
4. Roberto Duran
5. Barney Ross
6. Beau Jack
7. Ike Williams
8. Carlos Ortiz
9. Lew Jenkins
10. Edwin Viruet / Edwin Rosario / Jose Luis Ramirez / Lou Ambers / Ken Buchanan

what n old timer u can b when u ignore d fact that d sport back then was more corrupt than in d 1980s and on .

Y not ? ignorant can b popular sometimes .

 

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McLarnin won a controversial UD over Young Jack Thompson and Canzoneri beaten Kid Chocolate twice (once by a very close UD that might have gone either way, once by a KO in 2 or something). These are the ones I remember.

As for the list

01. Benny Leonard
02. Joe Gans
03. Henry Armstrong
04. Roberto Duran
05. Freddie Welsh
06. Tony Canzoneri
07. Ike Williams
08. Lou Ambers
09. Barney Ross
10. Battling Nelson
Just missing (in no particular order): Lew Tendler, Charley White, Willie Ritchie, Sammy Mandell, Benny Valger, Beau Jack, Esteban de Jesús, Carlos Ortiz, Old Bones Joe Brown, Pernell Whitaker.

Favs: Benny Leonard, Tony Canzoneri/Roberto Duran/Joe Gans, Ike Williams

 

The lightweight division has superb depth of greatness and history. Usually the top three is.....Duran, Leonard and Gans, in whatever order you care to place them.

This division contains the two best pure boxers, defensive masters, the sport has ever seen. Pep and Whitaker.

 

Duran probably doesn't belong in Top 10 resume-wise.

 

I guess that depends on what lightweight resume means. If you take him from his pro debut to the third Dejesus fight I couldn't leave him out. If you actually take his time at lightweight... Not unreasonable.