The lightweight division: WTF happened?

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  1. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    I can't believe how long it's been since some natural young lightweight was making a lot of people say "That's the next great lightweight champ." It's amazing to me. It's been such a stop-over division, and yet some terrific fights like JMM vs Diaz and Katsidis and Crawford/Gamboa. You've got guys like Pac only stopping in for one fight that was a sensation performance that would've had people talking about his lightweight legacy if he'd stayed.

    Then you've got Marquez only hitting the division when he was supposed to have been in the twilight of his career as oldest champ there ever-then leaving it for a last act even higher in weight. You've got the grotesque Valero tragedy that interrupted what could've been an interesting "Valero era". Then recently you've got one of the best talents to hit the division in Crawford who'd just started to get people excited and established a new lineage there immediately moving up. I don't think I've ever seen such a stretch of time where a young guy who seemed like he'd be a lightweight for the long haul had people talking about him dominating the division for years or anything like that.

    It's like there haven't been any real eras with a face on them for a long time. It's hard to believe for such a rich division historically that it's having such a weird period of none of its talent putting a stamp on a lightweight era of their own in any way or really being natural, mature lightweights to begin with. Look at Broner, enormous guy for 130, quickly outrgrew 135, fizzled out at welter. Guerrero, enormous guy for 130, quickly out-grew 135, fizzled out at welter.


    . . .So, WTF is going on with 135? Anybody else notice how weird the luck is for that division right now?
     
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  2. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Crawford was too big for that division I always felt, it was only a matter of time before he moved up so that came as no surprise to myself.

    Gamboa on the other hand is too small, again, not a surprise he wasn't able to do a lot there.
     
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  3. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    Luke Campbell, Kevin Mitchell, Anthony Crolla, Terry Flanagan, Ricky Burns, Derry Matthews, Tommy Coyle, Scott Cardle....it's one of the strongest divisions in boxing. :nod
     
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  4. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Easily one of the weakest, if not, the weakest division in boxing.
     
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  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    These guys are ****.
     
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  6. Super Hans

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    These guys are THE 5hit!
     
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  7. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    :hat
     
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  8. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    Uh?
     
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  9. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    Yeah I was not surprised either, and it was part of my point that it hasn't looked like any guys who are filled out, natural lightweights with legit upside are going to stick around long enough to be touted as the next great lightweight, for years and years now. It's weird.
     
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  10. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    It's mostly because of the glamour brought to the higher weight classes by Floyd and Pacman in particular.
     
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  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Late eighties to early nineties the best natural lightweight/light welterweight was Julio Cesar Chavez. Then it was Pernell Whitaker in the nineties. In the 2000s it would have been Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez. But they all moved up for bigger money fights.
     
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  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Yeah it's pretty awful, really...
     
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  13. Young Terror

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    Felix Verdejo Wouldnt lose a round to any of those clowns :hat
     
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  14. Super Hans

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    Cool Hand would have that hype job out of there within 3 rounds
     
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  15. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :lol: Just stop Super Hans, the division is terrible. Those guys you mentioned would be competitive with Mickey Bey. Enough said with that, really.
     
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