Going back to when Miguel Cotto fought Oktay Urkal to win the vacant strap ... Cotto had defended that title a few times against some solid opponents. He defended it against Judah, Mosley, Quintana, and Alfonso Gomez ... then he attempted to defend it against Margarito and lost it ... then Margarito fights Shane Mosley and loses it to him ... now it's being put in a unification bout with the WBC strap. The WBO was vacated by Paul Williams then won by Cotto and will be most likely vacated by Pacquiao. The IBF strap was vacated by Margarito, won by Clottey, then vacated again. Since the retirement of PBF a couple of years ago, there hasn't been any solid lineage in the championship straps ... but the WBA is on the rise. And i'm sure if the winner can hold on to that strap then the lineage will continue and who'm ever they fight rather it be IBF champ or Floyd or the winner of Floyd Pacquiao will create some kinda of legitimized champion of the division. (not the ring magazine belt)
horrible post. Lineage has nothing to do with a single alphabet. Worst post ever and it begins with Cotto-Urkal? Can i have the last 30 seconds of my life back?
Its strange you are connecting the lineage with the continuity of defending the particular belt. Right now there is no single fight at WW which would create new linear title. The shortest way to accomplish that is when the winner of Mosley-Berto will fight winner of FLoyd-PAC.
-The fighter makes the belt not the other way around. -You may say Mosley is the lneal champion but not because he has the WBA belt. -Mosley does have the biggest lineal claim but not necessarily being the champ.
Of course the fighters make the belts but its about the belt thats not getting tossed around that much and the belt thats getting the most quality opposition.
While I don't understand what this post is trying to say it does bring to mind a question. If Mosley were to lose to Berto, Pacquaio and Mayweather would then be 1 and 2 in the rankings, unless you think Berto could move up from spot seven with one win. Would the winner of Pacquiao Mayweather be ring champion if that happened?
Because he was the no 1 contender and fought the no 2 contender. The WBO belt didn't mean much. You could say he created lineage threw the IBF belt aswell.Makes as much sense.
How is lineage re-established if a fighter never looses it in the ring? I know how the Ring re-establishes their champ, I think its when no.1 fights no.2 or 3(?) based off on their own rankings. With lineage however you cant use the same concept as each belt has their own ranking. Only way really is unification, but unification of 2 or 3 or 4? IMO the current lineal champ is PBF. He retired, fair enough if someone re-established a lineage whilst he was away but they hadn't and now he's back, so by default he still holds it..
Why not?He kept all the belts that didn't make him fight a useless9to him) mandatory. Besides he went up in like 3 fights.
Loyalty perhaps. Or the fact that he defended that belt something like 17 times already, throwing it away and keeping the IBF belt would be a slap in his own face, it be like admitting he was defending the less worthy belt all this time. Either that or it was whichever mandatories he preffered or which org charged less sanctioning fees...
The linear title has nothing to do with any belt at all. Linear titles are just restarted, by the consensus number one. Presumably fights like Floyd/Pacquiao decide the new lineal holder, if the former champion has retired.
