The logical reason Pac "increased speed", power, and durability..

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your post shows you have no idea of what it is like to plateau while working out and have to cut, "just a little more". Cotto has been steadily becoming fuller in both muscle and (slight) fat. Margarito took years to get to that weight. He is now older.

    Weight loss, especially "sweating it off" removes minerals and sugars. You wouldn't know.

    No. It is because his career arch does not support this BS. Neither does the billion plus Asians around the world who carry a thin layer of fat and find it harder to carry muscle mass toward the top ends of their frames. Mexicans show similar characteristics and it has ZERO effect on their boxing ability. Why is Manny special? It is talent. The talent of a lab.

    Yes he did. Pac declined a testing protocol. He lied about a 14 day cut off. He lied about agreeing to everything. Manny is 2 for 2 in the duck department.

    Yep. You are just as dumb as the first time you attempted to argue with me. :lol:
     
  2. CasualFan

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    nice avy you have there
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly! Especially when everyone is presumed clean. Doubly so when they are attempting to crush each other's skulls.
     
  4. Knives7

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    It seems like it's you who doesn't know anything.

    You didn't see what Cotto looked like during the weigh-in nor did you see what Margarito looked like at the weigh-in didn't you? :deal Oh yea Margarito IS now old at 32.

    LMAO! Asians find it hard to carry muscles because they carry thin layers of fat. Normal people unless you're obese carries thin layers fat! What a dumbass, really! Unless you're saying that lots of Asians are obese. :rofl That's completely false! Here's a fact: North America has highest obesity rate in the world and the US is leading.

    :rofl He only declined the 14 day cut off date at the first negotiation. Accepted it during the second, Mayweather probably didn't budged so Pacquiao (from Pacquiao's mouth) said "I agreed to the 0 day cut off date, I'll even take the test between rounds" It was Koncz that said 7 days not Pacquiao.

    Pacquiao's words are greater than any of what his teammate say. Mayweather even said that Pacquiao agreed to the demands then said he doesn't have the urge to fight right now.

    Here are some more facts:
    There is no proof that Pacquiao is using steriods. The only basis that the Mayweathers and you *****s have is that he's beating guys better than Mayweather, therefore; he's on steroids.
    Mayweather is so afraid of Pacquiao, he'd rather assault his ex and go to jail than fight Pacquiao in the ring.
     
  5. Knives7

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    Fair enough, but we both know that urine testing (according to NASAC) has already improved. It's safe and you'll get the same result as the blood testing. Not to mention it's cheaper.
     
  6. TheGreat

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    The guys fighting Pac are bigger BUT they are also slower, less durable and far less skilled, I predicted from day 1 Pac would Whoop everyone he has at these higher weights, truth be told with the exception of Mayweather, peak EM and JMM at 130 would be a FAR harder challenge than anyone he could fight right now.
     
  7. rocky538

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    The other logical reason would be performance enhancing drugs. You're not using logic if you don't accept the argument for PED's.
     
  8. klion22

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    All the people mentioning how JMM and EM are so skilled and the guy's he's been fighting aren't that skilled are forgetting the simple fact that Pacman is a much more polished fighter right now than he was when he fought those guys. It's like two different fighters. He was essentially a one handed fighter who lunged in exposed. He still does this from time to time but he has now mastered his footwork where he comes in from various angles as not to be so predictable. And the mastery of his footwork is what really took him to another level. He just bounces all over the place like a rabbit and comes from all angles. He didn't do that years ago.

    The Pacman of right now runs over both JMM and EM. Come on.
     
  9. klion22

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    Or he's truly a certified ATG. Pacman's body doesn't look like a steroid body. He's muscular but not buffed up. With his legendary workouts, he would be noticeably bigger if he was juicing. But how come he's been fighting pretty much at the same ring weight for years, even before his move to WW?

    I mean what evidence outside of pure speculation do you accusers have of him taking PEDs? You can't say his unimaginable success. That's not evidence, that's speculation.
     
  10. left right left

    left right left Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No doubt. Marquez better start thinking about Katsisdis.
     
  11. Theologicaldisc

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    only people on PED's use logic and facts.
     
  12. dhenzrae

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    i'm not talking about that particular fight. floyd and pac, doesn't rehydrate that much since they start fighting at WW and above. they're like fighting in their "walking weight". they could easily fight at 140 imo, but chose not to, coz they don't want to cut weight. so for you to say that no fighter aside from Pac that doesn't want to cut weight, floyd is the other one.
     
  13. izmat

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    Pac's hanspeed is actually slower than his superfeatherweight days!
     
  14. bald_head_slick

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    Hey moron. Go look at Cotto and Margo's weights through their careers. Pac cut them both.

    I am the dumbass, but Pac won't drug test? Asians carry a smoothness and are naturally more fatty directly under the skin. They are also usually of slighter skeletal build. Any person, especially an Asian, scarfing down 7000 calories and gaining that much muscle mass would put on fat. Bodybuilders can't even do it. Somehow your schizo ass digressed off into obesity?

    He declined 14 days on the first negotiation. 14 days wasn't offered for the second one. 0 was the offer due to Mosley taking the 0 offer. Pac LIED and then Pac was busted.

    Pac's words are nothing. Pac has proven himself not to be a man that runs his own show. Pac is a puppet. That is how GBP got a piece of him. That is why he is still with Arum making less than he should. Those are the fact.

    To your facts:
    -- There is no proof because Manny won't sign the fight.
    -- Who has he beaten better than Mayweather? You are a fool.
    -- Pac is so scared of Mayweather he would rather break his wedding vows, attempt to assassinate his political opponents, and get his wife involved in a murder plot.

    We can play the personal game. You will lose. :nono
     
  15. bald_head_slick

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    I disagree. I don't think Mayweather can make 140 and be effective. I think his walk around, physically active, and hydrated, weight is 150+. He trains down into WW.