The Louis that fought Rocky was not shot.

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    From the “one fight” from 1948-1950 joe fought another 19 times in 1948 (including bouts against Arturo Godoy, Billy Conn and Jimmy Bivins that were certainly competitive), 36 times in 1949 ( including bouts with Curtis Shepherd, Elmer Ray, olimio Agramante, bill Gilliam, Nino Valdes, Rex Layne, Tommy Flynn, Johnny Shkor and Roscoe Tolles) and 24 times in 1950 (including bouts with Pat Valentino, Clarence Henry, Nino Valdes, Henry Hall) so that count becomes 1+79 fights for the period dosnt it? You can dismiss them as mere exhibitions but guys were knocked out by Joe Louis here. Some were 10 rounders with News paper decisions. Some Real fights, often with no head guards but no official decision.
     
  2. reznick

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    And da ting goes skrrrraaaaa!

    Mans Not Shot
     
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    Holy ****.
    That schedule is absolutely insane. Makes the idea of him being shot sound more silly.

    He would've made BANK in the 80's.
     
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  4. reznick

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    So Louis fought 80 matches in his last three years, not all official (A sign of the times).

    He wasn't shot for the first 79 of them.
    Nah, you see, it was the 80th. Rocky got lucky. And he went bald in retirement, don't you forget it! Pointless win.
     
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  5. choklab

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    Yes this exhibition tour was more legit than much of George Foremans, pre Aldison Rodriguez,early comeback.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    In a 1989 article Ferdie Pacheco said this of the Foreman comeback-

    I thought Marciano and foreman were the only guys who got out on time. But to come back now? Quite simply, this is pathetic, it shouldn’t be allowed. He’s overage, inept. This whole thing is a fraudulent second career to build a Money fight with Tyson”
     
  7. mcvey

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    They were not real fights.
     
  8. mcvey

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    More dumping on George doesn't it ever stop?
     
  9. mcvey

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    A tab about Joe Louis that features 14 derogatory posts from you about George Foreman!
    It cannot be denied, you have a serious issue about George and GOOOOOOOOOOOD GOD Almighty we all have a serious issue reading this same regurgitated dross every day!
    Mendoza with Jack Johnson.ChoKlab with George Foreman and Sonny Liston.
    Its irrelevant to the thread,and stunningly , excruciatingly ,Groundhog Day BORING!

    Cut us some slack, drop your crusade in negativity for a while!
     
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  10. mcvey

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    Maxim would be in todays heavyweight top ten ?Yeah sure he would!
     
  11. mcvey

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    Any era in which Gardner,Sys,Williams are ranked and Savold is number 2 isn't just," not very good" its pretty bad!
     
  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Charles Martin and Manny Charr are champion material these days. Surely anything could happen.
     
  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    You can take any decade and you will find unremarkable guys within the top ten. Even the best ones.

    Domingo d’elia, Jose Roman, José Urtain Johnny Boudreaux, ,Jack Bodel, Lorenzo Zannon all ranked during the fabulous 1970s.

    chuck Wepner, Duane Bobbick and Jose Luis Garcia made it several years running too.

    Thats not to say they were bad fighters. But it does say there would have been a place for men regarded as less remarkable contenders from other eras.
     
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Some of them were more real than a great many fights contenders pad their record with. Some of them clearly were not exhibitions at all.
     
  15. Contro

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    Just watched it again. Louis looked near shot, he couldnt pull the trigger and his reflexes were slow he had serious trouble avoiding the wide overhand right.
    Marciano himself looks poor and comical with the tiny arms. Gotta respect the punching power and determination