The love given to Hopkins and the hate given to Calzaghe

You obviously feel a need to satisfy an agenda..... so have fun reading this.......It'll save the trouble of having a pretty 1 sided discussion.....

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191807&highlight=nation+dominates

 

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The problem was simply down to Egos and luck, Hopkins didnt want to leave USA to fight and Calzaghe didnt want to leave UK. Same attitute but luckily for Hopkins there was a bigger pool of names for him in america. Both men beleived everyone should come to them on their terms. This can be seen especially still in the way they negotiate their fights. IF both had a Froch attitutde then we would have much different resumes to compare.
This is my explanation for their resums anyway.

 

Agenda? Hardly post on here, oh right, I dared to post something out the usual routine, lets go back to the tribal bull**** that rules this site. Thanks for the directions.

 

Who made this a tribal discussion? Maybe the guy who singled out another tribe and called it a dying breed....then complained when a tribe member responded by supporting that tribe?

 

Merely an observation from watching this site.

 

An accurate observation, I might add.

 

Hopkins is a better fighter and has had a better career no matter how you look at it. That's why he will 100% be remembered as the greater fighter, and no amount of biased threads will change that.

 

The yanks can NEVER lose. John Wayne defeated everyone,the Germans, Japanese,Vietnamese,Italians,Red Indians...etc etc

 

Hopkins had a reason to stay in America, Calz was practially a non issue to most until the Lacy fight. Lacy's hype had a lot to do with people barely knowing who the **** Calzaghe was. Nobody really thought Taylor would beat Hopkins and he was practically in the same position as Lacy, a young undefeated impressive fighter, but still, nobody really thought he would beat Hopkins, unlike Calzaghe who most thought would get knocked out, the reason being he was practially a nobody. Yeah sure he had a long defense but nobody gave a **** about those guys he beat except for Eubank and even then that win barely means anything, about as much as his Roy Jones win.

Its the reason why Calzaghe fans hold on to the Lacy and Kessler wins

Lacy - "OH IT WAS A MASTERFUL PREFORMANCE" like that somehow adds more weight to the fact that lacy was a nobody
Kessler - "He was the best super middle at the time" Now the guys been beat by a a green fighter
Roy Jones - "He is a legend, he came out with a win vs lacy" yea and...........?

 

Hopkins had a reason to stay in America as the rest of the world clearly does not matter when in those narrow minded shores. Calzaghe was a non-issue to Americans, but to the so called Europeans and the rest of the Boxing world, he was an unbeaten world champion, and at this present day a record breaking Boxer. Lacy was a good fighter. Very one dimensional but he was being compared to Mike Tyson by a lot of people for a reason. As soon as the dirty Euro spanks him in one of the most one sided fights of modern times, he is a nobody. Calzaghe punished him much like Hopkins supposedly does to his opponents. He took him to school in front of a worldwide audience and he made people take notice. Kessler is a world class fighter, period. Again, he is ‘European’ so it does not matter. I’ll give the Roy Jones one, but it was an exhibition, nothing more. I think you will find both will admit to that once the dust settles on their great careers.​

The mere fact Calzaghe is put in the same bracket as a Dane or a Ukrainian really sums up the attitude of US fans on this site. The moderators should seriously sort this out, as 50% of posts are Calzaghe bashing, it’s a joke. Embarrassing to us looking in, but after a while its seriously irritating, and I am assuming it’s the aim of some of the posters on here. Calzaghe did not end up 46-0/ longest reigning boxing world champion of the modern era by accident! Much the same as Mayweather, he fought smaller guys, but will likely end up with a 42-0 record, that’s life. The pair of them are great, great Boxers, but ones American and ones British. Most of the numpties posting this tripe do not even recognise the fact he is Welsh!​

 

When did Hopkins struggle against Allen, and Antwun?