*** The Mafaufau Sita aka David "Tuaman" Tua champ-by-40 Express!!! ***

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Sep 19, 2009.


  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    If Arreola beats Vitali, i will give Tua a great chance to beat Arreola by knockout.
     
  2. diehard

    diehard Active Member Full Member

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    Couldn't get it to work. Sorry.
     
  3. RomperStomper

    RomperStomper Active Member Full Member

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    In short you are a fool but keep using emoticons like it means anything BTW this is the Tua express not the impotent ***** who feels like a **** express sure you know what your talking about ...exept you dont and what is your point to begin with oh yeah you dont have one WTF is your point your an idiot your point is either you feel a shell of Tua wouldn't destroy 70% of the heavyweight out there or your simply a flat out ****ing idiot the more likely case do you have anything to say that is meaningful or do you just feel like if your a big enough sandy vagina the boxing gods you believe in will listen to you?
     
  4. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Can we just get back to discussing the Tua prospects now??
     
  5. rm36

    rm36 Active Member Full Member

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    1. You don't know what you're talking about.
    2. You didn't even seriously read the conversation.
    3. I have nothing against Tua, but I do have something against delusional fans like yourself.
    4. You need to learn how to use punctuation.
     
  6. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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  7. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    I wish I could get that 30 min clip working - but sadly not

    Is there a chance it might appear on Youtube?
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Okay, after this we're done. Don't expect to be humored anymore.

    No, I didn't. In what way did my phrasing suggest anything definite. I again revert to the definition of the word "can". It suggests that he's able to beat anyone but the Klitschkos. Not that he "definitely would" - that's a fabrication of yours that I never said anything even close to. And you know this, you're just deflecting attention from how wrong you are (and have been) with misdirection and willful ignorance. I didn't back off anything when I listed out some top ranked names in the division and annotated the three I'd favor Tua less heavily over (but still favor over - thus not contradicting my actual original statement at all) than the rest with "Maybe. But probably not." That language is consistent with my original statement. It doesn't support a statement along the lines of "I'm 110% sure that Tua smashes everybody except Vitali or Wlad and there is no other possibility" - but that doesn't matter because I never said anything of the sort. Why does everything have to be absolute and finite? There's no place for absolute and finite in as unpredictable sport such as this. So you lean in one direction or another to various degrees. I lean so far in the direction of Tua beating Rahman or Arreola that's it's virtually a given (nothing is a given in this sport though - hence the complete and utter lack of any absolute and definite claims on my part at any point). I lean in his direction against the three most eligible runners-up to the Ukrainians as well, just less so than against Rahman or Arreola. And that's consistent with what I said in the first place, and at no point has my position changed in the slightest. What's difficult to understand about this?

    What did I say "But probably not" out of?

    If you're hung up on needing to find absolute black and white statements where they don't exist, that's your problem.

    Self-deception makes for great armor. :good
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :good

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  10. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    That's a great video

    Thanks for the links - awesome - appreciate it
     
  11. rm36

    rm36 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm really worried now.

    The use of paragraphs would have made this easier to read. When you say that a 70% Tua can beat everyone except the Klitschkos, that is a definite statement. He definitely CAN do so if he's at 70%. I was disagreeing with you because I don't think at even 70% he could beat everyone but the Klitschkos. After you said this, you backed off from your claim, and you added maybes next to the names of certain fighters. That goes against what you said before. That means you think there are fighters who could beat Tua at 70% of his best. That means you really do have doubts (even though you say you don't) about Tua beating everyone but the Klitschkos. You're not sure about the claim you made that Tua can beat everyone except the Klitschkos. Maybe a 70% Tua can't do it.

    You're basically saying that he can do it unless he can't do it. That's why I wrote that I could beat a grizzly bear unless I couldn't do it. It's a completely meaningless argument.


    That supports what I was saying.


    Read through your posts again, you'll see that I'm right.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Bonus round.

    Hush, child. Nobody's impressed, and nobody cares what you have to say.

    When someone says "Condition A can happen" it is not compatible with saying "Condition A will definitely happen". It's compatible and consistent with saying "Condition A is some positive degree of "maybe"."

    Can you dispute any of that? No you can not.

    The root of our problem is right here:

    Never happened. Not once, ever. What I said was:


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    Head to head, Tua - if he's 70% or more of his old self against Cameron - can beat any active heavyweight except the Klitschko brothers right now.


    Do you see how that's different? Let's try again:

    Are

    and

    - the same thing? No they are not.

    Are you starting to see how stupid you look right now? Try a mirror.
     
  13. rm36

    rm36 Active Member Full Member

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    Are you getting angry ? :lol: Don't bother posting what I actually wrote, then you would have to use your brain to prove me wrong.

    Some positive degree of maybe ? So you did have doubts about your definite statement that he could beat them at 70%, just like I said in my last post, right ?

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    That would be true except after that you contradicted what you had said. :lol:

    I'm starting to see that you didn't even bother to read my last post. Look at it again, and maybe then you'll understand.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    If by doubt you mean the absence of absolute certainty, sure. That's been consistent with the language I've used all along - not a single contradiction anywhere. But go ahead and claim that as some sort of victory as I'm sure you will - even though you've failed to prove the existence of a single contradiction, or that I made any definitive claims of a particular outcome. What definite statement, by the way? What part of "could" (not even my original language, but synonymous - I said "can" ;)) - indicates absolute definite certainty of an outcome?

    Answer that. That fundamental issue is what all this semantic nonsense has been about.

    Answer that. A direct reply to that question is the only thing I will respond to now.
     
  15. rm36

    rm36 Active Member Full Member

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    :patsch Good way to avoid every other argument I've made about the things you've said. I was disagreeing with you saying that at 70% he can beat everyone but the Klitschkos. I don't think at 70% he can beat everyone but the Klitschkos. You have your doubts about that too (which you tried to deny) because you put maybes next to fighters' names after. So you doubt that he CAN do this. When I say "I can beat a grizzly bear in a fight," it's a definite statement. I am able to do this. When you say David Tua at 70% CAN beat everyone except the Klitschkos, that's a definite statement. He has the ability to do that. After that you contradicted yourself by adding those maybes. That means you contradicted your statement that David Tua could beat everyone but the Klitschkos at 70%. Maybe he can't do it. If it's not a definite statement you might as well just say he can do it unless he can't do it.

    Do you understand this yet ?