The main reason Pacquiao wouldn't beat Mayweather, is that ....

lol @ those especially (Floyd..GOAT) claimin that Mayweather is gonna knock Manny out, Floyd hasn't knocked anybody out in a million years and now he'll KO Manny who we know can take a punch... WTF ? That being said I wouldn't be so surprised if floyd won that fight (assuming it ever happens) but via UD

 

Pacquiao does not give up anything by being aggressive. As long as his right foot and fist are in front of him , and he's throwing punches, he's changing the angles.

Your original point is that Floyd wins bc he's a 'percentage fighter' , but that's exactly why he'll lose. That's the wrong kind of fight to fight against Pacquiao. If you wanna see someone who just tried to win on points look no further then Clottey. You can even go back to Barrera 2.

Floyd's problem in this fight , and always has been for me, is his habit of only throwing one punch at a time and being overly defensive. You can't keep Manny at bay with one punch. You have to earn his respect, and be active enough to control his offense. Marquez did it by controlling distance, giving angles and countering pacquiao's aggression with combinations.

Floyd has a habit of fighting in straight lines, especially against southpaws. He's like to invite his opponent in (or walk them down), and either pick off their shots and counter, or beat them to the punch. It's always with single shots.

Watch this clip of Floyd v. Mitchell

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Notice how Floyd squares himself up , he's not dipping down behind a shoulder roll, or doing anything your used to seeing him do. That's because fighting a southpaw changes the angles, and it would be no different with Pacquiao.

Marquez also had the will and heart to stay in the fight when it got rough. Those are the kind of intangibles you need to have when you fight pacquiao, because your going to have to weather some storms throughout the fight. Floyds safety first , 'hit and not get hit' mentality is the wrong mentality to have against pacquiao.

Like I said wait till the Ortiz fight and you'll see what I mean. Ortiz is an aggressive southpaw, which according to you gives up your southpaw advantage. But I expect him to give Floyd trouble in the early going, and Floyd's strategy will be no different then it was in the past.

 

Can't wait for floyd to school ortiz badly and watch how quick you change your tune.

 

Floyd won't have to be as agressive and walk Manny down because he'll come to Floyd. That's what we mean by givng up his southpaw advantage. If Manny tried to out think and box with Floyd, then Floyd would walk him down also, but since he's coming to him, Floyd can fight like he normally does.

Also I beleive you'll see more combinations in this fight. Floyd went out and tried to improve on them since the Marquez fight and it showed up against Mosley

 

emmanuel gets whooped. His punch output drops whenever he fights someone with good boxing and countering skills. Kid couldn't even fire at Sugar Shot Oldsley when Shane made himself into a moving target. Floyd's the master in the modern era at that fighting off the backfoot. emmanuel lunges in lots and still puts himself off balance but is able to get away due to speed. Only problem for him is Floyd has the best timing in the sport, amazing reflexes, and is extremely quick himself.

One of Floyd's favorite techniques is to smother his opponents, he knows how to effortlessly go into the pocket and clinches. manny can't even fight inside.

manny look so good lately has more to do with his opponents selection than it does any drastic improvements. The upcoming Marquez fight will show this.

 

You forgot to mention how manny has virtually no jab.

 

That still doesn't give up a southpaws advantage. As long as your in a southpaw stance and your throwing punches ,your switching up the angles. When Pacquiao throws punches their not coming from the usal angles that Floyd s used to. That's why you don't see him using the shoulder roll that much against southpaws.

And Pacquiao isn't just an aggressive fighter. He's a boxer -puncher. He can move box, counter, and he's a pretty clever fighter himself. This isn't gonna look like Mayweather - Hatton.

 

Never had to answer them? You're full of ****. This guy fought on with a broken hand or badly hurt hand in several fights. He had a bad shoulder and dug down deep to beat JLC. WTF has Pac done get cut in the eye against EM only to melt down in the stretch and lose? There's alot more questions about digging deep from Pac than there is from PBF.:deal

 

He does need a jab. If you think you can beat PBF with a lead right hook in place of a jab you're wrong. It won't work Pac has short arms and is at an extreme reach disadvantage here. It's not a punch you can throw at range and have success against PBF with. Pac needs a jab. I can't beleive you're actually saying he doesn't need one???:rofl:nut I pray to God that Pac indeed implements your gameplan and comes in with that ****, God i hope so. It will be an even easier fight for PBF than I thought.:yep

Beat him to the punch?:rofl: PBF has the faster hands here make no mistake about it. PBF can throw a single shot dfaster and more accurate than Pac can period. The difference and handspeed in this fight will be evident from the opening bell. pac can throw combos faster I'll give you that but getting off first will be PBF's advanatge in this fight and not Pac's.

 

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What fights have you watched to spot this tendency? I know you mentioned the Mosley fight before, but that wasn't the only fight he used a high guard in. I don't remember him dropping his left before throwing a str8 right against Judah.:think

 

Amongst common opponents pac is the better defensive fighter. Pac has been hit less and lands more then floyd amongst common opponents with exception to JMM in which floyd fought him at 144 where he coudnt even make weight. So according to your theory when compared to common opponents pac will win.

 

So, by your logic:

Pac has 'proven' he has heart by fighting with a cut eye. However, Mayweather, also staying calm in the face of adversity and fighting with broken hands (Chavez/Judah) and shoulder problems (Castillo) still hasn't 'proven' his toughness because, well, all fighters have injuries.

This is why Pac fans have credibility problems on this site.

Come on, man. :verysad

 

:rofl Good ****, I've been looking for this everywhere.

 

From what KnuckleUp99 is saying, mid-fight injuries don't count as having heart. So I guess this guy doesn't have heart either. He's just a heartless tough guy, going by KnuckleUp's standards.
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