The Manny Pacquiao deception, Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez II

I agree. They were meant for one anther. They brought out the best in each other and at 126 or 130 when PAC was at that level they'd always have a close fight. NOW....:verysad Jmm doesn't have a chance.

 

you don't watch fights in slow motion the first time around, why would you put so much effort into slowing down the fights and sway people's decisions after the fact? enough people scored it for JMM, there's no point in trying to go "see? i told you so!" so the ones who scored it for Manny change their scores.

 

Lederman is an idiot so he doesn't count cause he scored the last round for Pac when that was clearly a Marquez round

 

Face it. Pacquiao won that fight. :blurp You can cry all you want and nothing will change. It's also funny that you only picked the ones that gave it Marquez. You're making yourself look stupid really.

114-113 Pacquiao.

 

:rofl

 

do you think manny won round 12?

 

I just want to say I did have Manny winning this fight by 1 or 2 points. But regardless this fight is really a huge eye opener. People who say Manny is a different fighter now are truly smoking rocks. The only thing Manny has added after this fight is his rope o dope defense he employs while resting in between flurries but other than that its the same angles. Same footwork, same right hand that Freddie was boasting about in pre fight interviews on developing . The only real argument really is stamina and punch resistance for reasons I don't care to say .

 

well 7 million dollars were offered to Pac for the 3rd fight but he turned it down to make 3 mil fighting Diaz.

 

It was close nobody got robbed but I had Marquez up one round, but I can't see how some people gave Pac the 12th

 

Nah man.....Manny has came a LONG way since the rematch with JMM. He still has the same foundation... Which is a very awkward, unorthodox pressure kind of style. But he's got a lot more weapons, he utilizes the right hand just as effectively as the left. His foot movement is A LOT better which allows him to be more effective both DEFENSIVELY and OFFENSIVELY.

His Stamina has ALWAYS been incredible. Even back in the earlier days at 112 all the way up to 130. His stamina did improve more when he got to 126 where he was no longer struggling to make weight. But PAC's stamina has always been part of what made his style so successful. You can't be a pressure fighter without it.

Look at Paul williams or Marg....imagine if they didn't have the kind of stamina they have with their styles...:-( They wouldn't be the fighters they are today.

 

Damn i had it for pacquiao 114-113...most everyone scored it for jmm though....

 

Judges see and hear the fight a bit differently than we from television.

 

While it was a close fight I think it was a clear win for Marquez in the second fight. I am OK with that b/c JMM got that bull**** draw in the first fight, Should be 1-1 imo. I think Manny is the better fighter overall and if they fought now Pac is probably stoping JMM...imo.

 

Oh and Manny has improved his footwork since that fight. see the Dela hoya and Cotto fights for proof of that.

 

Pac won both fights on my card, by a single point.