The Manny Pacquiao deception, Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez II

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by AlisJab, Oct 7, 2010.


  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    you have missed reading this divac. one of your reference where the list only put down 3 scorers from the boxing bulletin but in actuality, they ommitted the other 2 who have scored it for pac thus it gives an impression that the boxing bulletin actually scored it for jmm. i'm sure there are many journalist who scored it for pacquiao as well and will look for others. even your boy dan rafael who was in the list and it said scored for jmm is actually labelling jmm a whiner for complaining for such a close of a fight.


    now read this and learn that not all of them as you claim scored it for marquez. and it was not a clear win for jmm as you absurdly complain.

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  2. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well ESB have it.
    51% WIN - 44% LOSS 5% DRAW
    Close fight but Manny just pipped him.
    As manny said "you knock me down you win."
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    There were 3 rounds in the fight that were talked about as swing rounds when the fight was first being debated.
    ......of those 3 swing rounds, I felt only the 9th was close enough that a case could be made of Pacquiao winning it.

    Those 3 rounds were the closer rounds of the whole fight.
    You would have to give every single one of those rounds to Pac to have him winning it. Every single one of them.

    Which from my view that person would have a scorecard reading of Marquez winning 6 clear rounds, Pacquiao 3 clear rounds and 3 close rounds that could go either way.

    The clearest round of the fight was the 3rd, the knockdown round.

    Next to that round, Marquez wins his 6 rounds much more clearer than any round you could give Pacquiao.

    Now I'm speaking from a perpective of a person having Pacquiao ahead on his scorecard.
    Only a dishonest person would say that Pacquiao won a round other than the knockdown round that was clearer than any of the 6 that Marquez won.......


    You get the picture????
    I've just described a fight that was'nt really close.
    A fight that you would have to go beyond the call of duty to figure out which rounds were closest enough to put on the Pacquiao side.


    Out of all the journalist present, you could count on one hand those that gave Pacquiao more than 6 rounds, yet there were hoards giving Marquez 8 rounds.

    This is'nt a picture depicting a close fight that could go either way.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:Did Pacquiao really say that?

    I think it would be funny as hell to find Pacquiao clearly winning 8 of his rounds vs Margarito, but having dropped to the canvas in one of them.

    I wonder if Pacquiao will feel he's lost the fight if he gets dropped by Margarito?:lol:

    Certainly there is'nt a chance Margarito will win on the scorecards and get the benefit of any round that is close.
    .....that just is'nt going to happen with a possible date with Mayweather looming.

    .....but I'll sure as hell would have fun with the *******s if something like this were to happen.

    I'd even quote Pacquiao.....
    :D
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Puga, dont be so *******ed and actually fully read a post.

    Read post #231.......the two boxing bulletin scores for Pacquiao are there.


    34 journalist having it for Marquez
    9 for Pacquiao

    Thats nearly 75% of those polled in the article having Marquez winning.......which is where I get my earlier statement of about 70% of journalist having it for Marquez that you believe I fabricated.

    The one thing I dont do in this forum Puga is fabricate.
    When its an opinion or a guess, I state so, which I did in this circumstance if you go back and read that earlier post.

    I cant be absolutely certain that about 70% of all journalist had it for Marquez. Its a rough estimate, which is coaberated by the scores the thread starter pulled out of an article and articles in the past I've read.














    Move on Puga!:D;)
     
  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Puga are you seriously wasting your time with this clown? Just post this:

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    He gets pissed off and might go away. He won't reply pretending he's ignoring it but he's not.
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I just got through explaining to Bogatazo why his proposal would'nt work, and here you come Babality providing the proof of it.:lol:
     
  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    No you misunderstand me clown. I like Pac due to his style, whether he lost or not to JMM doesn't matter to me. He could lose now, I'll still be his fan. You are much more biased than I could ever be. You probably have tried to justify the Whittaker vs Chavez draw. Sickening my friend. Sickening. That is why you deserve gif for answers. Idiot. And you must be on drugs if you think I would read that. You write an essay every post attempting to come off as educated and non-biased but it doesn't work, sorry.
     
  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I didn't actually think this was right and thought some guy was just shitting on Divac as usual but oh my...


    Divac on Chavez vs Whitaker:

    And he has the nerve talk about BIAS. This dude's opinion on any fight involving a Mexican is absolutely meaningless.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2248584&postcount=8

    Sad.
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Now go find the thorough analysis I've given in this forum many times as to why and how I came to my scorecard having a draw.

    If you're going to post that to the forum you might as well find the reasons why I had it a draw......

    ......oh thats right, a analyzed explanation does not interest you, afterall you're a *******......you just post, "Pac by KO and dont offer analysis or an explanation.:thumbsup
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh my ........all tied up in knots are you????

    Have I been neglecting you?
    :smoochThere you go, maybe that will make it better.:D
     
  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Lol. I would never argue with you about any fights, especially those involving Mexicans. You are much too biased. Don't say you wouldn't either with *******s because you've been doing it over and over :lol:.

    You really think writing an essay makes a difference? Wow you must think people are so naive except you. With minimal effort, anybody can try to make anything seem reasonable, teenagers and even kids do it all the time in school, just write bull**** and make it look a bit fancy, if the teacher is an idiot he might give you a B, maybe even an A. A "well" explained, long, essay doesn't mean anything. You are biased as hell and there's no hope for you.

    Chavez vs Whitaker a draw. :rofl And then talks about bias.
     

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  14. titan

    titan Active Member Full Member

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    fixed :D
     
  15. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Divac knows **** when scoring. He is the only poster in esb to give a 10-8 round for JMM in the PAC fight.