*** The Marco Antonio Barrera super-thread ***

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Jul 31, 2014.


  1. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Barrera was a great fighter, lost twice in way he should've never had , Don't know if he underestimated them, or just had 2 terrible nights .
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Only now? :sisi1

    I have, and loads of people over the years have encouraged me to, but...

    tl;dr:

    Real life doesn't generally work out that way. To actually make a living writing about boxing (or commentating on it) would require having the connections or educational background that, for me not to already have by now, are nigh unattainable.

    I'm not a very monetarily driven person, either. I was born a poor kid and will probably die a poor kid (with a few more gray hairs and worse knees than when Mama Butt first whelped me). Which is all for the best, as making a real push for it would in all likelihood just end in bitter disappointment, because the reality of the world that we live in happens to be that, most often, not in all arenas but for certain in sports journalism and the like, things don't hinge on merit or even the combined forces of talent and hard work. Those help one's baseline chances but are no guarantee for "success" as society defines it. For me, success would be having Dan Rafael's job at ESPN or the one Larry Merchant had for years at HBO - difference being, I would do it unpaid; hell I would pay for the privilege of having global audiences consider me "the guy" for scoring or analysis of the sport I love. The other difference is that I'm know more about boxing than and happen to be a vastly superior writer to both of them combined (yes, I've read Merchant's stuff from his younger days. Hardly inspired. He's an overrated hack, put on a pedestal by an entire generation of fans simply because they were used to him being on TV while they grew up watching the sport; and the only reason HBO put him in that position is because he by that point had already 'been around' for a while, although his confrontational persona was probably the larger reason for his being a "name" sportswriter than any of his actual written pieces).

    Now, that may sound egotistical, but trust me - I don't say I'm better than Rafael and Merchant because I think I walk on water. Plenty of people out there know more about boxing than I do, and plenty are better writers. Those knuckleheads just happen to fall short in both respects (as in, they're merely "fair", being generous, while I'll leave it at myself being "good"), which just drives home the point that if you want to be a famous journalist specializing in pugilism, you don't have to understand the game, or even necessarily love it (although I'll grant that both do seem to, in their own fashion), nor even be all that handy with a pen; you instead need to have a degree in communications at the very least, and preferably years if not decades paying dues covering other sports you don't particularly care about for publications or networks that could not care less about boxing. No thanks.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Both work. I think in Latinx press he was usually referred to with niño, but - as his resident #1 fan, I reserve the right to stylize his nickname however it damn well pleases me to. :D
     
  4. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Btw whatever happened to "Selfkill" aka Addie??
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Are you ...calling me less fortunate in the IQ dept? :hang
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...you referring to Junior Jones? I think given that stage of his development, those losses were unavoidable for young MAB. He was very good then, but the process of self-reinvention those losses engendered is what made him a Great.
     
  8. divac

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    MAB was a great fighter to be sure but your assertion that he didn't show fear in rematches couldn't be further from the truth.
    Against both Junior Jones and Manny Pacquiao, MAB fought super conservative, I'd say even fearful of the possibility of getting stopped again. MAB didn't let his hands go in either of those rematches, really didn't give himself a chance to win by how conservative he played it.

    Even against Rocky Juarez who had hurt MAB in the first fight, he held back and just jabbed and moved against the slow plodding Juarez.
    I wouldn't have brought it up in a thread like this, but you said "fearless in rematches" and that just really not accurate at all.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I think he preferred the company of the wayward flock that set up camp in 'that other place'. :nusenuse:

    Shame. Terrific poster. Knew his stuff.

    ...and stanned MAB even harder than myself. :sisi1
     
  10. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones 1 and Pacquiao 1, you can see that was not Barrera , especially in the first Pacquiao fight, something was wrong...
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well, not to detract from Pac or make too many excuses on Marco's behalf, but his prime had certainly at least begun to entropy by 2003. He was by no means done, but he was past the point of being able to deal with that monster, that Pac was in 2003.

    Jones I might have IMO just been inevitable.
     
  12. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The absolute only time in my life anybody has ever told me that.
     
  13. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone should make a thread about the "Magic Man" Paulie Malignaggi.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...yeah, sure, here.
    Paulie "The Magic Man" Malignaggi

    now everybody stfu with requesting threads for every individual fighter under the sun, and their brother. thanks. :D
     
  15. IsaL

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    Google translate :D