The Mayweather curse

No, I am a Boxing Fan and I admire what Floyd has done, you on the other hand are worst, low life, a Hater, you just hate cause thats your nature, and like I said, you are a sack of **** :deal

 

If Floyd ended up fighting Margarito over Hoya, he would have been a plodding bum. Williams was never really good. And a drained 154 Martinez in 2010 or 2011 it would have been a victory he got no credit for. Hell, some like to take credit away from him for beating an unbeaten KO king in Diego Corrales. What would people had said if he opted not to fight Baldomir, a guy that beat Judah(whom only lost twic prior) and was undefeated in almost 20 fights?

I would have loved to see him in there with Margarito, Martinez, and hopefully we still get Pacquiao.

This story played out too many times, the same guys saying he would never fight Mosley are the same ones calling Mosley grandpa after the win.

 

The sad reality of this is that there are only a handful of fighters picked to beat Floyd...

You hear the same names over and over again, three of which he already beat...

Same Ole ****...Kosta Tzu,Tony Margarito, Paul Williams, Sergio Martinez and Manny Pacquiao....those are the fighters he didn't face that Mayweather critics claim would all have beaten him even the all suffered defeats by far lesser opposition than Floyd...

The three whom Floyd beat who are considered past prime are Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley and Miguel Cotto...Obviously we know Floyd ask for all the fights at some point earlier in their respective careers, they didn't come off for whatever reason....

At the end of the day Oscar was the age Floyd is now when Floyd beat him and still a champion in the sport at a higher weight than Floyd had previously fought, Mosley was resurrected after KO'ing the "Boogie Man" of 147 and only a couple years older than Floyd is now and Cotto who had only been beaten twice before and revenged one of those defeats prior to facing Floyd and Cotto is also younger than Floyd....

At then end of the day when Floyd only loses Hypothetical matches against guys he didn't face which againts most he he would be favored to win and he also goes on to beat good fighters while he's past his prime then I say it's been one hell of a career that's still going strong...

Anytime you have an athlete that's talked about so much and is hated so much but is at the top of their game people tend to want to see them lose...it's all in the game...Floyd has a very good resume, unquestionable skills and is considered widely to best the best at 147 or 154 today at 37yo that's an amazing thing...and he will easily be a hof'er and an atg when his career is done....and all while being undefeated and making tons of money...He has a fairy tale career and any man fighting today I'm sure would trade their accomplishments for his...

I just can't imagine him being affected by all this lame hating with the career he's had and true unbiased boxing fans with always see him as being one of the greats even minus the fights that didn't get made...

 

:good Nice job!

 

Mayweather is the only fighter I know of who can fight the Lineal Champ and or #1 guy from three different divisions back to back to back and still b discredited. As a fan the only real fighters I'm disappointed he hasn't fought are Kystzu and currently Pacquiao for what ever reason they didn't happen they should have because those would probably be top 5 wins on his record.

After that I don't see it yeah Margarito called out Mayweather then lost his very next fight he's has always been a nobody and his one fight six month run as an actual champ doesn't change that.

Williams hopefully he is able to walk again someday but he was a nobody to his best win is Margarito that says a lot

Cotto is on record saying he nor his team ever wanted a Mayweather fight nor was he ever ready before 2012. And Mosley was ducking Mayweather til 07, some people would even argue guys like Casamayor, Johnston, Frietas, yet Castillo beat all there asses at LW and he's a bum win/fighter.

People harp on competition a lot but the ONLY guy in boxing fighting reigning Champs coming in of career wins in every fight is Mayweather.

I guess it depends on your flavor though Margarito being a fake 1-weight champ compared to Guerrero being a fake 4-weight champ

 

So the Mayweather curse is that he is too talented? Poor guy.

 

Maybe if Floyd made a fight once in a while like say, against a Pacquiao, Martinez, or GGG your statement could be proven. But he hasn't done that so your statement holds no water. A drained Canelo with his best win a questionable one against Trout(who followed that fight by getting dominated by Lara) does not qualify.

And btw....

140 - Garcia, Matthysse
147 - Pacquiao, Bradley, Porter, Alexander, Thurman, Provodnikov
154 - Lara, Cotto, Canelo rematch without weight drain
160 - Martinez, GGG, Sturm, Quillin

So not quite 20 but quite a few and a lot of those would still not be "good" fights for Floyd. But they would at least be better opposition than Khan or Maidana.

 

Why people keep suggesting this man fight at 160 is beyond me...let's just suggest every welter go up to 160...Maidana, Alexander, Bradley, Pac, hell let's get Garcia, Lucas and Marquez to go up to 160 as well...

Let's not just stop there Lara, Trout, Canelo and shiit put Khan at 160 too...

There is a ceiling and Floyd has max out at 154...If he grabs a couple wins at 160 you will have people asking for him to fight Ward & Froch next...

 

Floyd has fought at the 147-154 range for eight years now. He beat two of the title holders at 154 in Cotto and Canelo(albeit at a catchweight) in the last couple of years. He's established himself at the weight. Going up one more weight class isn't too much to ask for someone who purports himself as the best, and we're not talking about Hagler-esque world-beating opposition here. He's said in the past that weight doesn't matter, skills matter. But as per usual, taking on that kind of challenge is not what Floyd's about, which is why we're talking about Khan or Maidana as his next opponent. Floyd is an ATG fighter, but his unwillingness to push himself is a consistent and massive disappointment.

 

That must mean you think Pulev will beat Wlad when they meet, because Wlad has lost to lesser opposition than Pulev.

Also, to think people would have said "Don't fight Martinez; fight Victor Ortiz", and "Don't fight Pacquiao; fight Guerrero instead" is ludicrous. Floyd knew exactly what he was doing when he avoided certain fighters. He knew those fighters posed a very real threat to his 0, so he avoided them. The thing is, that 0 looks less and less impressive with every fighter ducked.

Someone else said Floyd is the only fighter expected to fight 2 or 3 weight classes above his weight. When Floyd is fighting in his 8th weight division as Pacquiao is I'll have more sympathy.

 

except come fight night, Floyd weighs around 150...if he fights at 160...what weight do you think those guys would rehydrate to?

 

The floyd the fought Castillio no longer exist dummy that the point, he has evolved from that stage of development of his career.

 

I'm sure most of them would be around 170-180 come fight night. But Floyd will have an even more major speed and skill advantage to compensate and it's not like he would be stopping these guys anyway. It has been done before by other ATG fighters that didn't talk as much as Floyd does about how he's the best ever. It's strange to me as to why some of Floyd's fans don't want to see him in against even a faded Martinez or an unproven GGG. And if you're super adamant that he's too small and don't want to throw in the Middleweight division options, fine. Explain how there aren't a lot better options than Khan or Maidana out there(especially Khan). There is no justification. Floyd is fighting hand-picked opponents that he matches up well with to make money with minimum risk, has been doing so for a long time, and has no intention of making more threatening matchups. He is an ATG fighter still, but nobody should be expecting anything other than him showing off his greatness against B and C level guys with favorable style matchups. He looked damn near untouchable against Arturo Gatti. But so did Alfonso Gomez. You can't call yourself the best and not be held to proving it against a higher standard of competition.