The men who beat Winky.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Interesting!

    Do you know if that's documented anywhere? And is there video of the time Johnston won? That would be cool to see.

    Do you know the identity of the fourth amateur to beat him, if the four loss stat is correct?

    Lucero, Millett, Johnston and _______?
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 29, 2011
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    damn you sound like a man possessed here IB!
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well, the whole point of the thread was originally to satisfy my curiosity and get a complete list of who got verdicts over Winky. (I'm willing to bet his mystery loss/losses came on points and not by knockout :yep)

    I might have come at him a bit over-enthusiastic, though. :oops:
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 29, 2011
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  4. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'll try to piece it together satisfactory.
    The video you posted is from the olympic festival 1990 where he won. (the tape is the "amateur days vol. 5": http://www.angelfire.com/nm/musictapes/am5.html)

    The one where he lost (no video afaik) is from the nationl championships where steve johnston took the gold. These two links combined should do it imo. http://amateur-boxing.strefa.pl/Nationalchamps/USA1990.html and http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Human:3600

    The other am was Shannan Taylor (wrote it above already).

    To be honest his am career isn't all that impressive since he didn't get to face much top competition.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

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    his chins is as solid as it gets so I doubt anyone stopped him.

    I wonder how many of his am losses were contentious or avenged?
     
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  6. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    The loss to Hopkins was competitive, I had it level after 8 before he lost the last 4.

    If he'd turned up in shape he might have won. Didn't have to go right to the 170 catchweight.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Aug 29, 2011
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  7. lufcrazy

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    no longer want batesy out?
     
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  8. mclovellin87

    mclovellin87 el Terrible Full Member

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    I like Winky but i dont think you can say he was competitive vs Williams - he lost virtually every round.

    Btw does anyone know where I can watch or download a good version of the Simon fight? My copy is nearly unwatchable.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It seems that the lean green teen Winky came up short against all his best opponents before ditching his Olympic ambitions and going for the money (except for going 1-1 with Stevie. That isn't really a black mark; Stevie was incredibly skilled...but undersized in that matchup)

    Yeah, there is no way any light welterweight was going to knock out even a scrawny kO young Winky - with headgear and fat gloves no less. Besides the legendary chin, he was already looking slick defensively there
    despite not having perfected his craft yet.








    Zacker, care to speculate on whether he would in fact have medaled given his style at the time and the depth of the field that year?
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 29, 2011
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  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    he lost 2 Money in the amaturs 2, IB. u shoulda mentshoned that in ur post.
     
    Boxed Ears, Aug 29, 2011
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  11. kopejh

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    Lol you're a ******. the Simon fight was close and the Hopkins fight was a spoil fest where neither fighter looked good (and both past prime).
     
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  12. W1LLPARK3R

    W1LLPARK3R Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Simon jabbed winky all night and Hopkins DOMINATED him...get over it.
     
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  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Winky is criminally underrated here because people didn't like his style. The truth is he was one of the best of his era and a stylistic nightmare for most.
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I shouldn't really need to explain how clearly losing almost every round is not necessarily the same thing as being non-competitive in those rounds.

    At no point in time was Williams ever dominating Winky, just out-working him and thereby out-scoring him by sheer gross.
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 29, 2011
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Simon won because a "scoring error" was "corrected" after a draw was initially announced and nearly incited a riot in Simon's partisan fans.
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 29, 2011
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