The men who could beat Ali

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by janitor, Oct 27, 2012.


  1. MadcapMaxie

    MadcapMaxie Guest

    I don't favour anybody to beat Ali, seriously he was in a class of his own.

    Some people have mentioned Cream but I seriously doubt it, Cream relied more on reeling his opponents in with fancy footwork and full body feints in order to land mid-range counters, his jab was mostly for the sake of setting up other punches. Ali fought at as long range as he could manage, pumping fast unorthodox jabs and combinations and had the chin to withstand anything Cream could dish out and a better workrate, not that it'd really matter cos I think he'd stop him. Cream would probably look very flash at times tho and make Ali look like an amateur but no way could he beat him over 15.

    Holmes would give him alot of trouble, but again Ali would win with his superior speed and footwork, also him right hand that something tells me he'd land alot against Holmes.

    Tyson I think would have the best chance simply with his power, speed, chin, stamina and aggressivness. Still tho, Ali would be fighting at long range, moving when Tyson came too close and clinching when he managed to get in. Tyson would probably deck Ali though.

    Lewis I think would just get outworked, particularly over 15, the Ali of the Liston fight would make Lewis miss and miss and come back with ultra-fast combo's then back on his bike.

    I don't know why people are mentioning Dempsey he got beaten 19 rounds to 1 against a smaller, slower, weaker version of Ali.
     
  2. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali Klitsjko. He does far better than his historical ranking would suggest.

    Also: Micheal Moorer.
     
  3. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If the fighter is slow he is not beating prime Ali. The Klit brothers would be dead meat and this would be apparent very early in the fight.
     
  4. MadcapMaxie

    MadcapMaxie Guest

    A 215lbs Walker Smith Jr.
     
  5. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Wlad & Holmes but no Lewis?
     
  6. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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    as much as I like Moorer, Ali whoops him

    :verysad:verysad

    He also whoops Vitali
     
  7. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well U better open up the case,cause Dempsey won a unanimous decision
    in a hot sun in 15 rounds from Tommy Gibbons a truly great fighter...
    If a Doug jones could hurt Clay and may have beaten Clay, if a Enry Cooper dropped Clay/Ali almost koing him, if a Kenny Norton beat Ali at LEAST two times, if A Joe Frazier in the FOTC almost kod Ali, why would not the prime tigerish left hooking Dempsey [PRE 3 year layoff ]Dempsey not have a helluva shot to finish the job against the idol of your life Ali ?
    ANSWER : HE SURE DID ...:happy
     
  8. KidJackal

    KidJackal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not meaning to be rude but was Ali not just shy of a 3 year lay off in the FOTC as well? Also this post is put together to suit your argument, I don't think Ali was truly prime in any of the fights listed....
     
  9. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the name of fuk:yikes

    Michael Moorer??????

    Not its gettin preposterous. Why not throw in Frank Bruno while your at it
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I forgot Lewis, but partly because he's down to a punchers chance, where the others could potentially win a UD
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I nominate Bruce Seldon.
     
  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Shake, you're shakin' us with Moorer.
     
  14. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Pretty solid list.

    I think there's difference between beating Ali and giving him a tough fight.

    Could some of these fighters give Ali trouble?
    Sure, why not.

    Could they beat prime Ali?
    Personally I think that only Tyson had the right combination of foot speed, hand speed, power, good technique and defense to really make it a 50/50 fight.

    The rest are too slow, too hittable, too tense, too dempsey, simply not good enough etc.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    What about a 1948 Ezzard Charles?