The mess that is the current WBC/lineal Middleweight championship

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Robney, Mar 30, 2016.


  1. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    We already know the lineal/WBC Middleweight combination hasn't been contested at the full 160 limit for about 3 years now, and it seems like there's no end in sight with the current holder refusing to defend at Middleweight. They probabaly will get seperated soon anyway.

    But that isn't the whole story. It goes deeper into the manure heap when looking beyond that.

    When actually was the last time this combo was defended against it's mandatory challenger? We've seen Diamond/Sapphire/Platinum or whatever it's called bulls__t belts, seperation and reintegration, networks rejecting mandatories and injury layoffs, that together actually avoided every mandatory challenge. They even created an interim Middleweight belt for a Mexican mandatory challenger, which probably being a horror scenario for the WBC, ended up in foreign hands later on.

    Could it be that Martinez vs Pavlik actually was the last actual mandatory defence? Back in the dark ages. And was Pavlik even the mandatory at the time? :blood

    And why do so many fans accept this mess?
     
  2. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Because he was second best money generator of 2015

    1.Floyd Mayweather, Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao 4,600,000
    2.Miguel Cotto vs. Saúl Álvarez 900,000
    3.Floyd Mayweather, Jr. vs. Andre Berto 550,000
    4.Gennady Golovkin vs. David Lemieux 150,000

    Don't let HBO or any other boxing purist fool you. Canelo can hold that belt and fight a warm fart as long as he does numbers. It's a money game man. I love the sport but it's corrupted and the hand with the highest bid wins.

    Haymon/Showtime has the HW WBC, LHW WBC, SMW WBC, WW WBC, FW WBC.
    GBP has the MW WBC
    Top Rank/HBO has the SLW WBC, FlyW WBC.

    The WBC wins in every hand $$$$$$
     
  3. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Sadly for this division and others in boxing I agree with you and the OP.
     
  4. Steve_Fox

    Steve_Fox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    bumlovkin should fight canelo at 155
     
  5. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Great input as usual Steve
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    That guy is already on my troll list.
    He actually had a post somewhere that MW is 155 now, not 160. :patsch
     
  7. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty sure Rubio was mandatory for Chavez Jr. But yeah Sulaiman needs to take control of this mess.
     
  8. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Wait, there's a troll list?

    Damn, no wonder BF24 seems so full of them to me!
     
  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everyone on this forums knows the situation. The only debate is where some people support this blatant corruption while others support GGG in fighting the corruption.
     
  10. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You guys are ridiculous you know the easiest way to end the situation, tell Golovkin to stop side stepping and enforce his mandatory.

    Its nobody's fault but his own if he doesn't
     
  11. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    The problem goes back to prior to Canelo. Even if we look at the present, it's hard to argue that Canelo has shown any interest in fighting at 160 even when the fight is to be mandated. Maybe he's just trying to call their bluff

    Either way, I think most people just want to know if the fight will happen this year or not. It's really dragging out and that sucks
     
  12. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo only has the belt because your boys been side stepping for 2 years now, everybody wants to cry and blame the WBC they don't control a fighter agreeing to side step over and over.

    The WBC has been said as long as its 160 or below they don't care, so all these complaint needs to be brought up to Golovkin and his team.

    You want the title STOP SIDE STEPPING
     
  13. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I'd be intrigued to know how much the step-aside money was, has it been published anywhere does anyone know?

    I never agreed with him side-stepping and if he does it again I'll have lost my patience and interest in the situation. He has at least managed to get another world title in that time though, which is something.

    Yeah, I've seen what the WBC have said and I hope they stick to it but they don't have the greatest rep for doing what 'should' be done
     
  14. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know but if you want the title that's not going to get you closer to it again people are acting like the WBC has been flip flopping they said that when Cotto first won the title.

    People just ignore it because it doesn't fit into the narrative for the hypetrain. It feels better to think everyone is doing you wrong than to admit you are the reason for your circumstances.
     
  15. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Big promoters can afford to grease the various boxing associations for rankings and title shots. Judges are hired by these associations and are influenced to be bias as well. The media is influenced as well. It sucks.