The Middleweight Division... RANKED!

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    1. Canelo
    2. Golovkin
    3. Saunders
    4. Jacobs
    5. Derevyanchenko
    6. Korobov
    7. Brant
    8. Charlo
    9. Andrade
    10. Sulecki
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Strange seeing Jacobs below Saunders considering that Jacobs’ last win is better than anything Sinus did in his entire career.
     
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  3. CST80

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    Well considering I scored the fight in Derevyanchenko's favor and don't consider it a win, and Saunders has one of the best resumes at MW, I disagree.
     
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  4. NoNeck

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    Reality check:
    Jacobs beat D-Chenko recently and took Quillin, Sulecki, and Arias’ zeros. He was about a round away from taking GGG’s zero.

    BJ Sinus beat Eubank Jr., who is a proven fraud, and Lemieux, who cannot deal with boxers. He also has been irrelevant for a year and dropped out of the biggest fight of his career due to PEDS.

    Anyone rating Sinus is outing themselves.
     
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  5. NoNeck

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    And I had Jacobs beating GGG, but I can respect the judges if they turn in reasonable scores.
     
  6. CST80

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    You not rating sinus is you outing yourself.

    Saunders has wins over: Lemieux, Eubank Jr., Lee, Ryder, Monroe Jr., O'Sullivan, Blandamura, Blackwell, Fletcher, Akavov.

    Jacobs has wins over: Sulecki (debatable), Derevyanchenko (debatable), Quillin, Arias (who Rosado beat almost as impressively), Mora, Truax.

    I don't respect judges, because judges are corrupt.
     
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  7. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This^^^:deal:
     
  8. NoNeck

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    The PED suspension to drop out of the biggest fight of his career is the icing on the cake.

    Quillin>Lee
    D-Chenko>Lemieux
    Sulecki, Arias,Mora, Truax is about the same as Eubank Jr., Sullivan, Monroe, etc.

    And Jacobs proved he’s elite against GGG. Sinus has never even stepped in the ring with someone on D-Chenko’s level.

    I was at the Jacobs fight fight and I can tell you that I and most of the people there had him winning due to harder, cleaner punching. You can’t understand how hard he was catching D-Chenko from sitting at home.
     
  9. CST80

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    Quillin and Lee fought and drew with one another, so that's wrong, they're literally even.
    Derevyanchenko is more skilled than David, David has the far better resume, so even again.
    Jacobs has been hurt by and or dropped by almost everyone decent he's been in the ring with, even friggin Ishe Smith and Mora:lol:, and stopped once by Pirog. Saunders may have been hurt slightly by Ryder, that's about it, other than that, has looked fine and never in any trouble.

    Good for you, most of us had GGG winning and blocking many of those hard punches. We disagree.

    Also, I hate Eubank Jr. but anyone who has , O'Sullivan, Blackwell, Yildirim, Quinlon and Arthur Abraham on their resumes, isn't a scrub.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    If Quillin and Lee are equals, tell me what the difference is between a ko1 and a majority decision.

    Lemieux’s limitations are well chronicled. If you want to argue that he’s equal to D-Chenko, be my guest but we know what you’re doing.

    I’ll say it again, Jacobs is a proven A level fighter and Sinus hasn’t even stepped in with an A level.

    Most importantly at this time, Sinus must be demoted on account of Peding his way out of the first A level fight of his career. He’s below the entire B tier at 160 which includes Andrade, Charlo, and D-Chenko because these guys are taking on serious challenges (or at least doing their part in Andrade’s case) regardless of Sinus’s resume. We’re talking about current ratings not post retirement ratings.
     
  11. CST80

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    Maybe they aren't equals, after all, Quillin's best win at MW is N'Dam, Lee's is Korobov, so, I take that back.

    Lee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quillin.

    I will explain the Quillin KO1 thinking, that's boxing for you. Pac KO2 Hatton, Mayweather KO10 Hatton, Mayweather UD Pac, see how crazy the sport is? Wow and stuff.

    Sinus, really? Grow the **** up, you're a hater plain and simple. I like Jacobs, but the man has been KO'd and dropped several times, and arguably lost and drew in 3 of his last 4 matches. Sorry I won't rank him over a guy who's never lost, never been dropped, and has the better resume. I have Jacobs one spot under Saunders, that's not the equivalent of butt raping the Miracle Man.
     
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  12. LANCE99

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    What rounds did you give to Jacobs?
     
  13. JordanK2406

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    Good list, only changes I’d maybe make are swapping Charlo and Andrade then swapping Korobov and derevyanchenko just based on personal preference but it’s pretty damn good tbf pal
     
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  14. NoNeck

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    Jacobs arguably won four out of his last four matches. Nonsense like he “arguably” lost to Sulecki is the type of stuff that is exclusively said on this board.

    I refuse to rate BJ in a spot he might be in if he’d beaten Andrade. I find it absurd.

    In closing, there are no big losers between GGG, Canelo, D Chenko, Andrade, Charlo, and Jacobs because they’re actually doing what they’re supposed to, which is taking real challenges.
     
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    Search function.