The Mike Rossman/Victor Galindez Fights

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just watched both of these within a few days of each other, and what great fights they both are, though for entirely different reasons.

    Seeing the "Jewish Bomber" work his way up and to then take the title away from an endlessly game but obviously somewhat aged Victor Galindez in the old school championship 13th, with Galindez cut over both eyes and lagging on the ropes... Pretty dramatic imagery, not a fight I'll be forgetting anytime soon.

    There were supposedly rumors floating pre-fight that Victor had trouble making the weight. I've watched a handful of early career Rossman and he really did seem to have some lights out power, though it appeared to of not quite translated to the highest level, at world level his power appeared solid but not other worldy.

    Well, in the rematch Galindez appears a different fighter, though a little older now he's in seemingly better shape, in his own words. (I'm partial to this second fight, perhaps a sign of a budding Galindez fan boy?) He seems sharper. His leaping left hook becomes an important weapon in the match and he lands it with more and more authority as the rounds go by. Galindez imposed himself and his style on Rossman, and as Howard Cosell referenced, his head, his shoulders, his arms... Every part of the rough and tough Victor Galindez was a weapon of war in there, and I'm not surprised he ended up regaining his lost crown via stoppage, even though he was eight years Rossman's senior.

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    So some questions I have after watching these fights.

    Did Galindez have any more to give to the sport prior to his tragically young death, was he already in the process of walking away from it?

    Was there any talk of a third fight between Rossman and Galindez?

    Where does Victor rank in LHW history? Does he fit into a LHW top ten?

    People say this was a golden age of sorts for the light heavyweights, and I can certainly see why. How would a guy like Rossman do if he came around today, or say sometime in the past 15-20 years? Would he be champion in other eras throughout history?
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I love seeing Galindez react to Rossman's family running into the ring at the end of the 4th. "I have to fight two people tonight? Ok, come on ****er come get some". :risas3:

    Rossman also seems very level headed and down to earth in the post fight interview with Cosell, even though he had just been in a brutal fight, lost his championship and broken his hand to boot. He admits he broke his right hand on the top of Galindez's cement head and that the pain became, in his own words, unbearable.
     
  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Research the Rossman vs Galindez "non-fight". After Fight #1, a Rossman v Galindez rematch was scheduled (maybe it was Las Vegas), and made it all the way to near "prefight introductions", when Galindez, as challenger, decided he didn't like either the assigned referee (or judge), and refused to come out of the dressing room, and left Rossman standing in the Ring by himself. Rossman look like he was in great shape, and was prepared to give Galindez another beating. The WBA, who basically sanctioned the fight, allowed Galindez to walk away from the fight, then established Galindez as Rossman's mandatory defense....which Rossman had to do in the scheduled "third fight" which Rossman lost to Galindez. My opinion is that Rossman really didn't care about the results of the actual Rossman v Galindez rematch, because he knew he was fighting both the WBA & Galindez.
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I had no idea anything like that had happened. Nobody in the commentary team mentions it during their second fight... Hmmm.

    And this is why you post on message boards if you want to know more about boxing.
     
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  5. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. I watched the situation trans-fold before my very eyes on the aborted fight telecast. Rossman, The Jewish Bomber, had a big fan following, and had been written up in a long Playboy Magazine article after his victories over Mike Quarry, before he got a shot at the title.


    "In February 1979, Rossman participated in what is sometimes considered one of professional boxing's most embarrassing moments (at least in modern times). At a scheduled rematch between Rossman and Galindez, Rossman was left waiting in the ring as Galindez failed to appear: the challenger's camp was disputing the neutrality of the judges scoring the fight. After immediate attempts to remedy the situation failed, the fight was suspended, and rescheduled two months later in April 1979."

    With Rossman perhaps still fretting about boxing politics, Galindez was focused on regaining the title, and was able to defeat Rossman. Rossman apparently broke his right hand during the bout, severely limiting his boxing ability. The pain became worse over the course of the fight, and unbearable to a point where Rossman told his father-manager after the ninth round that he could not continue. Galindez was thus able to reclaim the championship."
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good stuff Longhorn, thank you.

    What are your thoughts/memories of Galindez?
     
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  7. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Victor Galindez was protected by the corrupt WBA.

    After getting stopped in the first fight, he got an immediate rematch.

    As pointed out above, he refused to fight and pulled out on the day of the re-match, RIGHT BEFORE THE FIGT WAS TO TAKE PLACE.

    Instead of being suspended, the WBA allowed Galindez time to get in better shape, and the rematch finally happened.

    The WBA treated Rossman as if he was not the champion.

    It was classic WBA corruption at its finest.

    For other classical WBA corruption see Juan Coggi (also from Argentina) v. Eder Gonzalez I
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Man, no talk about Rossman or Galindez, mostly everythings about what pieces of **** the WBA were... :eek::risas3::oops:
     
  9. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a complete travesty

    The WBA and WBC were blatantly corrupt latin-based organizations.

    They rated obscure Latin fighters who had never fought outside their home countries.

    The had "house" judges and referees. See the scoring of some of Eusebio Pedroza's fights i.e. Lockridge, LaPorte.

    Then, the IBF was formed in response to this corruption.

    All the IBF accomplished was becoming a corrupt US based organization.

    It's President Bob Lee was convicted for white collar offenses.
     
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  10. FrankinDallas

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    Wow....thats crazy. Well, it IS boxing we're talking about so crazy but not shocking. Imagine if at the Super Bowl an NFL team refused to come out of the locker rooms because they didn't like the ref or the cheerleaders?
     
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  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, I mean it's all inter-related.

    If the rematch took place as scheduled, it may have been a different result.
     
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  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Also worth mentioning to further illustrate how corrupt the WBA was:

    Rossman didn't even deserve his title shot against Galindez in the first place.

    He was bombed out by hard-luck Yaqui Lopez earlier in '78 but it was Rossman who got the title shot.

    In October '79, the WBA strips James Scott of his ranking, saying it can't have a convict fighting for it's title.

    Then, why did it rate Scott in the first place, knowing he was a convict?

    Why wait until he's the #1 contender before stripping him of his ranking?

    Could their motive have been to protect the man who held the WBA LHW title at the time it stripped Scott - the aforementioned Victor Galindez?

    Scott, to his credit still went on to defeat Yaqui Lopez.

    Fortunately, Marvin Johnson stepped in and emphatically ended Galindez's second reign.

    Anyway, I guess the point is Boxing is very political.

    Yaqui Lopez was obviously much better than Mike Rossman, but never won a world title.

    Insert him instead of Rossman and he likely beats Galindez that night.

    Mike Rossman was a middling contender who got a shot he didn't deserve and, to his credit, made the most of it.

    James Scott deserved a World Title shot but never got it.

    Victor Galindez was a champion but his tight connections with the WBA helped him through several controversies during his reign and allowed him to get an immediate rematch upon losing the title and even let him decide when the rematch would happen.
     
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  13. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never knew this had happened, how can a fighter ever get away with that?
     
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  14. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BOXING POLITICS/CORRUPTION
     
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  15. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I always enjoy your posts Saad54, especially when it come to the lightheavyweights of the 70's and 80's. I learn something new everytime.