>>>The Mikkel Kessler Warring Longboat<<<

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Dec 21, 2007.


  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Bika wouldn't take it...ex-sparring partner, outgunned big-time by Kessler, and injured; Lacy wouldn't take it...not himself yet due to injury, risk/reward awful...looking to fight have-been NAMES at 175, Larsen...not competitive enough...Mundine would never take it...Manfredo...would be a complete disgrace...can only see Green or Miranda taking it...
     
  2. randeris

    randeris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that Larsen and especially Manfredo should not be made, but if theres nothing else out there, why not?
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Because it would be humiliating. Kessler will find someone for this summer, better than these two. I am sure of it...don't know who yet, though.
     
  4. randeris

    randeris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest, i'm not so sure, with Palles slow work. He has done many great things for Kessler, but he does seem to be slowing down, has not made a card in Denmark for a very long time and does not seem to entusiastic.
     
  5. HolgerD

    HolgerD Armscontrol Full Member

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    I think the problems with the potential fights you mention is that they are not doing anything for Kessler. Winning, he is at status quo. Loosing, he might have a long way back to the top. He need to harvest from the big fight in Wales or fight a low-risk bum. Moving up in weight is certainly the best thing to do IMO. I think his frame and style and other virtues will suit a higher weight class extremely well. The long break he has had before the next fight (4-5 month) is poor planning on behalf of Team Palle, given it wasn't caused solely by his operation of course.
     
  6. randeris

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    Beating Edison Miranda would be big in USA, and would make so many more know that he is not just another 'Jeff Lacy' as i've heard stupidly from people on this board.
     
  7. HolgerD

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    As for the Mads Larsen fight, recent comments seem to point to some remaining "bad blood" between Mads Larsen and Team Palle, so it will probably not be in the making anytime soon. Team Palle said that Larsen wasn't a big enough name to appear in Kessler's optics and Larsen responded that he doesn't care about Kessler because Kessler has no belts anymore. Larsen wasn't impressed with Kessler's loss to Calzaghe.
     
  8. Maden

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    The only reason for kessler to move up in weight should be if he could get Roy Jones Jr. in the ring. The SMW division is his for the taking, and the division has a lot of depth.

    His layoff has nothing to do with poor planning. The story of Kessler is that he is in fact injury prone and has been so since his early days as proffesional. He is a 2 fight a year fighter.
     
  9. HolgerD

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    Miranda....perhaps, perhaps. Honestly, I don't know enough about Miranda's current status among the US boxing fans. Maybe you have some sources/links you can point me to?
     
  10. HolgerD

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    First part:
    I see what you mean. Problem is: Nobody want's to fight him in SMW. That's how the weight issue entered the picture in the first place as far as I know.

    Second part:
    No! His layoff is bad planning unless it was caused by the operation. Kessler is a boxer in his prime and a boxer in his prime should BOX. It's that simple.
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I agree, though I still think his summer fight will be at SMW.
     
  12. Maden

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    Get back in the rankings, and people is forced to face him at SMW.

    Well if your body can´t handle the pressure of fighting it really doesnt matter how Prime you are!
    Bad planning would be forcing Kessler to fight and ending his career to strain injuries!

    Like it or not, he is a 2 fight a year fighter!
     
  13. HolgerD

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    1) If you were to plan your carreer in accordance with rankings you'll move ahead with the speed of a turtle. Bad idea in my book. If the body-frame is cut out for it I suggest using it for a weight change.

    2) How in the world did you reach the conclusion that Kessler is a 2 fights-per-year fighter? How about he learns more about staying healthy and plan his training wisely in terms of protecting himself against long term unjuries?
     
  14. Maden

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    It is a known fact that Kessler has been struggling with chronical back pains for years! He himself has expressed that his body can´t handle too much hard fight training. So in that regard he is keeping a 2 fight a year plan to prolong his career.

    He is staying as healthy as he can, but you can´t cure chronic disorders with wise training.

    A permanent move up in weight makes no sense to me at this point! Kessler is known as the second best at SMW behind JC, he is going to get his chances at becoming champion again. Palle knows how to make the big fights happen!
     
  15. HolgerD

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    1) "....It's a known fact...". Yeah, to religious people.:smoke

    2) "...He is staying...". You might know Kessler better than I do but as far as I can see Kessler has actually become better at taking care of himself. He moved to a healthier climate and makes a case out of eating healthy food. Also, I think he is in contact with a physical therapist on a regular basis. "Chronic"? I don't about that. Source please.

    3) "...known as second best....". There is no way in the world Kessler is satisfied with that. He was disappointed after the Calzaghe fight and will IMO do everything he can to redeem himself. Opponents in SMW do not exactly stand in line to fight him. A change of weight could solve that over night.