The misconcepcion of those people who continously compare boxing and UFC.

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  1. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    For a while, there are a lot of articles sprouting on the web that continously compare the wonderful sport of boxing with UFC. This article is not created in any way to discredit or disrespect UFC, but merely clear up any misconcepcion that people in general have between these two which as any knowledgeable sports fan will tell you, "should not be compared."

    A casual sports fan might ask, why not?

    Simple, boxing is a sport and UFC is a premiere league that represents the actual sport, MMA. It is like saying the NBA (The premiere basketball league) is much better than volleyball (an entire sport). Although both are "ballgames", they are essentially different and should not be compared to one another. Boxing and UFC both features action, knockouts and brutality but are completely different entities.

    In the first place, people should've just said, which is better, boxing or MMA.

    For discussions sake, let's pick up on a recent article which states a few reasons why UFC is better than boxing and then we will pick up on what the actual facts are when you look at the entire sport of MMA plus let's put give boxing some defense.

    1. UFC has only one champion per division. Of course, Why would they complicate their situation. Looking at boxing, it is like saying WBC has only one champion per division. WBO has only one world champion. When you look at a bigger picture, MMA has a lot of champions too. UFC, the now defunked Pride has their own champions, Elite XC has their champions, so does WEC, which is like a minor league compared to UFC. Seems like they also have their version of boxing's intercontinental or international champions. And we are not yet talking about league's which also employ MMA rules but are usually more of the kickboxing type like K1 and Strike Force. There are also less popular one's like URCC from the Philippines. So much for that argument. At least, every once in a we get to see a unification fight in boxing. Now when will Lesnar and Fedor unify their titles?

    2. Boxing has too many weight class. Well, I would concede that if the discussion was about smaller weight classes which has only an interval of three pounds or so. But nevertheless, smaller guys get the opportunity they deserve. In UFC, you start at lightweights who weight 150 plus or so. That's already jr. middleweight in boxing. And what about those guys who weigh only 130? 115? Look for a job elsewhere? Here's another interesting fact when you look from a broader point of view. Different leagues, different weight limits. In boxing, the weight limit is standard regardless of which organization you look into: WBC, WBA, IBF, WBo et al. Forget the catch weights, we are talking about the standard measure here. If you weigh 147 or less but not under 141.1, you are a legitimate welterweight. What's the lightheavyweight limit in UFC? 205. How about in ELite? In Pride? And you thought boxing is a mess.

    3. UFC is much more organized and well managed. Of course it is. It is was stated several times over, it is a single entity. with one guy who is mostly in charge (Dana White). In boxing, we have Jose Sulaiman who is in charge with WBC, Gilberto Mendoza Jr. for WBA. Nobody is in charge with the entire sport of boxing, I don't see anyone in MMA either.

    Let's end this with the last and most interesting part.

    4. Royce Gracie was part of the list on why UFC is better than boxing. They delve on the reason that he is a pioneer, shaped the sport on what it is today. Sure, and I admire Gracie too. I even look at him as a historical figure on MMA. On the other hand, everyone knows the name Ali and Tyson, we aren't even talking about the pioneers of the sport of modern boxing. Guys like John Sullivan and the bare knuckle days. Bob Fitzimmons who is another legend and pioneer. And when you think about it, the actual pioneers of the sport fought even before Jesus Christ was born. How's that for history.


    There you go. Remember, the sport is MMA, not UFC.
     
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  2. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude, write it in your diary.
     
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  3. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :happy
     
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  4. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    I just don't know why people can't enjoy both. It's not that hard to do.
     
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  5. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed. It's also not that hard for people who aren't fans of either sport to follow one without constantly spouting ridiculous, uninformed bull**** about the other.
     
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  6. superfly98

    superfly98 Bull Full Member

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    Good post. Alot of the points you mentioned I never considered. Very informative :good
     
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  7. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are much lighter weight classes in MMA. Feather weight, Bantam weight, and Flyweight, but are not in the UFC. The UFC is simply the top teir organization of MMA. As for the smaller fighters, their top tier organization is the WEC where fighters like Mike Brown (145), Urijah Faber (145), and Miguel Torres (135) can make their name and mark on the sport.
     
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  8. Dave_j1985

    Dave_j1985 Active Member Full Member

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    A few points about this post.

    1. We know UFC is not representative of all MMA.

    2. Yes each MMA organisation has their 'world champion' but most people consider the UFC champion the world champion for good reason, look at the list of champions, BJ Penn, GSP, Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, Brock Lesnar. The only argument you can make here is the heavyweight title, the rest are legit world champs and I can name them of the top of my head, unlike boxing.

    3. The WEC has world class lighter weight divisions and are owned by Zuffa so no, it isn't a case of go get another job.

    4. Yes, UFC is more organised than boxing. Although we have been seeing some great match ups in boxing over the last couple of years. Can we put this down to competition with UFC?

    5. Yes Royce Gracie opened up alot of people's eyes when it came down to fighting. No, he isn't as well known as Ali or Tyson, who showed great skill and were great champions but were not pioneers in any way.

    6. Your historical comparison is hilarious, queensberry rules have been around for acouple of hundred years, NHB fighting has been around for thousands with wrestling coming from the ancient greeks and BJJ having roots with Japanese samurai.
     
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  9. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't he just get done explaining that u can't try and compare a company, to a whole sport?
     
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  10. Dave_j1985

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    3. UFC is much more organized and well managed. Of course it is. It is was stated several times over, it is a single entity. with one guy who is mostly in charge (Dana White). In boxing, we have Jose Sulaiman who is in charge with WBC, Gilberto Mendoza Jr. for WBA. Nobody is in charge with the entire sport of boxing, I don't see anyone in MMA either.

    He was refering to UFC (not MMA in general) in particular in relation to the organisation compared to boxing, I didn't make that comparison he did.
     
    Dave_j1985, Jul 22, 2009
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  11. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Good post.

    Any true fight fan would like both boxing and MMA.
     
    achillesthegreat, Jul 23, 2009
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  12. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And point karate and TKD and ADCC and Judo and...

    No, you can be a fan of one and not the other. Or like one significantly more than the other to the point that it doesn't matter. I am tired of people pretending that you are not a true fight fan if you don't like both boxing and MMA. Some people don't like one, or like one way way less than the other. It is to be expected, it doesn't make anyone wrong.
     
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  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I just don't think MMA is as entertaining. 'Nuff said.
     
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  14. Dave_j1985

    Dave_j1985 Active Member Full Member

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    It's personal preference obviously, it's like saying if you like rugby you have to love gridion because they both have a ball and tackling. I'm a MMA, BJJ fan and probaly casual boxing fan.
     
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  15. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    Some people are under the impression that you can only like 1 and have to hate the other as if your on team boxing or team MMA. I was a boxing fan since I was a kid watching Tyson in the mid 80's but when I seen the first UFC back in 93 I was hooked.As a boxing fan how could you not want to know who is the best fighter in the world is??? not just the best boxer.
     
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