The misconception of bravery

I don't know why you put Shannon Briggs in there. He trained properly, he tried his best, he never ran away, and he never quit. He just didn't have what it takes.

unless you are not talking about the Vitali fight.

 

I think no boxer is a coward but that doesnt make them all brave either.
Some boxers are brave in certain fights like clottey vs cotto only to fight scared in the fight right after.
Brave means trying to get the win and dont quit while behind or look for the finishline.

 

Agreed and i ****ing hate Briggs

He stood toe to toe with Vitali and tried to set up the right but its all he had

Briggs also really tried against Lewis

 

Shannon went all out. It was quite amazing.
Taking a brutal beating and not running away even if not throwing back still equals bravery.

 

You ever been in the ring? Hit in the face? Any fighter who gets in the ring has a certain level of bravery that most do not possess. Just because it is a job doesn't make a fighter any less brave. Do you consider soldiers who fight for pay 'not brave' because they are getting paid to go into battle?

Some fighters I agree are more brave than others once they are in the ring and in the line of fire. But fighters that take a beating could just quit no? If the other guy is so much better than you you simply cannot win then I don't see how it isn't brave to last the distance whilst taking a pounding when you could quit. I think you need to reassess your 'jumbled rant'. I don't think you've really thought it through.

 

First, you can't say they are cowards if they show up and fight. Even David Haye, a giant ***** of a man, got in the ring with Wlad knowing he was going to punched in the face repeatedly by the HW Champion of the World.

That's pretty brave.

Secondly, having been in the ring myself and talking to other fighters, I promise you that anyone who says they are not scared is either dumb or punch drunk. The fear wears off as the time goes by, but if you weren't scared of someone trying to beat you unconscious, then you are crazy.

 

so what you are saying is that bravery is not mental strength

 

Agreed.

 

i agree, most people have no idea what bravery is because the average person is not very brave. it doesnt take much to impress them because its a lot more than they are willing to do. boxing in a controled environement is only uncommonly brave to those that know they dont have the stones to do something like that or those that want to make themselves feel brave for attempting something like that.
a soldier charging a machine gun nest is brave, rosa parks was brave and quite a few fighters are brave, just not all of them.

 

Any boxer feels fear before a fight. The definition of bravery is not being deterred by danger or pain and doing it anyway. As controlled as boxing, is men have died in the ring and will continue to do so. That is the nature of the sport - head trauma is what you aim to achieve as a fighter so as to win. How facing that isn't brave is beyond me - some fighters are more brave than others but all are brave.

 

it is all relative and each person sets the barometer according to what they percieve as hard to do. luis resto had the bravery to step into the ring but lacked the courage to come clean about his cheating for the longest time, even though he knew he had to do it. where do you set the bar on what takes more courage? to someone afraid of violence, taking punches is braver. to someone who enjoys fighting, admitting you are a cheater is braver.
you set the bar low anough and your kid attending kinder garden without crying is the bravest thing in the world.

 

Alot of fighters go in to fights completly overmatched. So any game plan, strategy or extra training will not be enough. This is not Rocky.

I think if an overmatched fighter trys to resist the inevitable. He is brave.

 

If course bravery is relative. But we're talking about boxing not kinder garden. IMO the barometer in boxing is entering the ring with the knowledge that you can potentially die in it. We're not talking about bravery at the lowest levels. We're talking about potential brain damage or death - you don't get too much braver than that. That is the level you are dealing with when you step into the ring. That takes a very high level of courage.

 

there are many ways people earn a living that are a lot more dangerous than boxing. if all these people are so brave because of what they do, then we need a new word to describe those that have uncommon valor in everything they do and not just for a living. bravery seems to be too common a description for things that are too common of an occurrance.