The misconception - "The improved Bradley"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by miniq, Apr 11, 2014.


  1. J_Grizzy

    J_Grizzy Active Member Full Member

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    If Pac wants this badly, he has a great way of hiding it. Bradley seems to want it more.
     
  2. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm enjoying everyone playing the Pacquaio psychologist in all of his recent fights. How many times have we heard all the following and seen the same Pacquiao?

    "I showed him Bible passages with violence!"
    "He's training harder than I've ever seen him train!"
    "He was too compassionate last time. Not this time though."
    "He's mad!"
    "I want for making good fight for all fans and show that I am not finish."
    "I need to prove that I am the better fighter."

    I mean, that's some compelling new stuff right there that totally isn't recycled from his last 3 or 4 fights. He MUST be just chomping at the bit to slaughter Bradley into a fine red mist, just like he was for Rios, Marquez, Mosley, and Bradley I.

    Somehow people are reading some kind of reborn killer into Pacquiao just because they think he should be pissed that he was robbed. Newsflash: He doesn't care. Bradley is the one who is coming in with a chip on his shoulder. You can look at the Provodnikov fight for reference. Bradley fights with his heart because he wants the recognition that Pacquaio already has. Manny is a programmed machine and will fight the way he always does, not that that's a bad thing.
     
  3. Sal-Chicha

    Sal-Chicha Active Member Full Member

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    Of course he improved he was a brawler now he even outboxed Jmm only Floyd did that. Bradley is going to rattle Pacman with the same left hook he caught Jmm with only Manny is going down!
     
  4. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    we will see but pac is going to dominate Bradley and stop him
     
  5. LightsOutJack

    LightsOutJack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is so ridiculous...

    Examples? Provodnikov and when else?

    :patsch I got insulted for not knowing one of Meldrick Taylor's obscure fights since he wasn't a star fighter when I was born. So as a young guy doing research on the sport, I happened to stumble on the Taylor fights everyone talks about, e.g. McGirt, Chavez 1 and 2, Norris, and his Gold Medal win... So I missed that one, and got ridiculed over it

    Tim Bradley fights in this era! He's been a champion since beating Witter in England... How do u people not know anything about him? How come you aren't ridiculed for it? :nut
     
  6. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What are you talkimg about? I have watched every single Tim fight since the Witter fight. What are you disagreeing with?
     
  7. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    manny is going to look good beating tim
     
  8. Sal-Chicha

    Sal-Chicha Active Member Full Member

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    Manny is so jealous of Timothy because he beat Jmm.
     
  9. LightsOutJack

    LightsOutJack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You say he was so reckless, when?

    Are you talking about the 1 round against Holt, the aggressive approach against Alexander, or the flat out dumb way he fought Provo? If you followed his career, you'd know he was more than capable of outboxing JMM.

    Did you see the defensive, skilled schooling he gave to Peterson? Who else did that to Peterson? How about the underrated schooling he gave Abregu?
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tim was a solid fighter several years back but he did have holes and did get reckless at times. I'm not saying he was Rios. Just that he would ignore defense and exchange too much at times. And that is exactly why a lot of people thought JMM (not me, I had Tim winning) possibly koing Tim. Tim had leaks in his attack and JMM is the master at exploiting them. Look, I'm his biggest fan but he did improve and wasn't always this polsihed. Right now, he is complete and at an A level skill level. He wasn't in the past. He outworked and outgutted a lot of his past opponents. And that's a credit to him.
     
  11. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    uh...so f*ckin what if he hasnt improved? pac for a fact hasnt improved and got got put to sleep. pac didnt destroy an injured bradley and didnt put a mark on his face so why do some of you think an older pac that was KTFO by JMM will utterly destroy tim? even if pac wins this fight, which honestly im starting to lean in the other direction, he wont blitz bradley. BRADY VIA SD. AGAIN.
     
  12. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lets put a ban bet on it pac is to big to strong to fast for tim.

    im salty we even have to watch this again
     
  13. LightsOutJack

    LightsOutJack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did you watch the JMM fight? He still traded with JMM, and it just so happened that his faster punches got there first and made a big impact.

    If you're implying those flaws he had before the JMM fight aren't there anymore, I have to remind you that you're claiming this based one 1 fight... As his "biggest fan", you know Bradley's at his best when he's boxing from the outside. JMM is at his worst when he has to chase his opponent...

    A fight he barely won while having the stylistic advantage over a much older fighter is your way of proving that Bradley improved. Completely ignoring the 2 worst performances of his career 2 fights prior. It doesn't make sense
     
  14. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course you have to exchange at some point, especially if you are a guy like Tim who always wants to get the best of you. But he is more polished and more disciplined now. He isn't as reckless.. Some of the exchanges he's been involved in in the past are surprising because he gives no regard to defense at times. And maybe he just never faced someone who could exploit them like JMM. I'm not saying Tim sucked or was Jermain Taylor or Berto. Tim still had a good level of skill in the past but it still had some holes. He was a mixture of heart, determination, workrate, blessed speed and solid skills. He wasn't as polsihed and disciplined as he is now.

    His jab is a huge weapon for him now. It was solid in the past but right now, it's a huge weapon. It sets up his offense and defense. He's better at rolling with punches and ducking them. His countering skills have improved. This is what happens when a fighter fights for a while and starts to put it all together. He is 30, entering his prime not only physically but mentally and skillwise too. Again, I'm not saying the guy was flawed as hell, just that he had some holes and seems to have fixed them.
     
  15. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And what does that say about Tim? You act like it's easy to take the Floyd blueprint and use it against Marquez. No one else other than Floyd could do that to Marquez.