The Moon-Galaxy Rivalry

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  1. AlFrancis

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    Dunno, it's really hard to say. Great chin, good puncher, economical style. There isn't much to judge him by looking at his opponents, though the Vasquez fight was a good win. I really think Moon was made for him. Harada was similar to Moon but with more finesse. Harada's aggression would be more controlled. I think Moon was probably a bigger puncher than Harada and so Masahiko would settle down to boxing a bit more, picking his moments to score points and take a decision. Olivares might struggle a bit more depending on which version shows up. If he takes it to Galaxy he could be in for a shock. I do see him boxing as well, there is always the chance he might tag Khaokor and if he gets him in trouble it could be game over. I think Orlando Canizales could out work him. To beat him I think you've got to be able to mix your attack, box him. Prime Rose could probably pull it off. Castillo 50/50. He might beat Herrera, Martinez, Zamora and Lujan. Zarate to beat him but Pintor would be a war. Davila could give him problems, beautiful boxer that he was. Thinking about it maybe Lujan as well.
    Anyway, just noticed the Davila Lujan fight is up, think I'll watch it.
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    right then after months of non stop hounding from Fleaman i have watched this fight (the rematch) :)

    And can i thank Flea for telling me about it, it is one of the best displays i have ever seen and now one of my favrouite fights.

    Early on i was impressed with Khaokers timing and movement. He got Moon to come forward landed his shots then stepped around to his right to open up a better angle and then was still in range to punch. Very impressive stuff.

    His jab was very good keeping Moon off balance and setting up his other shots. Also his right hook was again very impressive especially to the body where he sometimes doubled it up to body then head. It was a fast hard punch that especially when he changed his angle. His straight left was particulary potent either after his right jab or hook it came straight down the middle in perfect time to catch Moon coming forward and this allowed Khaoker to step off at his angles as the long left kept Moon pinned down.

    Later on in the fight Khaoker basically kept it up and started to throw more combinations. These combiations reminded me of Pnuematic Cylinders as he pumped them out fast, hard and with regular precision. These really did pin Moon down and when Khaoker l;anded his combination then changed angle and threw another combination i was blown away.

    The later rounds were absouloute brillaint Moon just kept going and landed som heavy shots in the 10th but Khaoker came roaring back to nick the closest round of the fight (the 10th). The 11th was brilalint as Khaoker stepped his combos up and finally looked to be breaking down Moon forcing him to take a knee after some heavy Combinations rattled his way. Then another combo 30 seocnds later forced a standing 8 count but Khaoker couldnt finish him.

    In the 12th Khaoker showed another dimension to his game working behind his jab and using excellant lateral movement to keep Moon at distance and go the full twelve. Nice fast movemnt to both sides behind a snappy jab.

    Ovverall, an excellant display just 2 negatives seemed to lack the punch to keep Moon off him and only really got to Moon late afte beating him for 10 rounds prior to that. Although Moon is tough he hit him heaps. Also at times Galaxy was off balance as he moved to the sides and afew times ws caught off balance by the ever-trying Moon.
     
  3. Flea Man

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    Al and Greg: :happy
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    why thanks Flea

    any points you want to discuss about it
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Well, one thing is that is backs up Moons chin. He took massive amounts of punishment before he finally went down. I see NO super-fly stoping him, certain Bantams (Jofre, Zarate, Olivares MIGHT do but Moon is relentless even when he has little hope whatsoever) With bigger punches may have him out for the count but whilst not as destructive a puncher as his Brother (opposition?) Khaokor is definitely a solid one.

    Greg I'm just glad you watched it; although Moon is one dimensional (albet he is awesome at pressurising/punching) I hope you see now why I rate Khaokor so highly.

    The Vasquez fight will reaffirm that; quality performance against a decent operator.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Moon has a solid chin he could be put down but always got back up and Galaxy looked like he had broke Moons heart but Moon got up and soldiered on very tough hombre. Like you say he is 1 dimensional but brillaint at it but Moon just used a tight angle to still catch Moon coming forward but be out of the way of him.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    So, do you see why I have a fondness for Khaokor now? Who do you feel is the better fighter, Khaosai or Khaokor? Better still, who would win in a 116.5 lb catchweight showdown between the brothers?
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    yeh i see why you like him.

    I think Khaoker si the better fighter but you could probably argue Khaosai was greater. I think Khaoker beats his bro
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Any ideas on where he ranks head to head? Who's the best guy you could see him beating? Watch the Vasqueza fight as well, another astounding performance:good
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    not sure Flea will have to think it over more.

    ill try get that Vasquez fight
     
  11. PhillyPhan69

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    Only read the write up on the first fight and that is what I am commenting on exclusively. I will watch the 2nd fight later and don’t want my opinion clouded beforehand.

    Moon pretty much shows superior speed and skill in the first 2 rounds, and they are pretty easy to score.

    I felt 3-5 were very closely contested, and I feel like the judges were leaving the door open for Khaokor to get a controversial decision if the fight had indeed gone 12. He is up 5-0 on one card (I tend to agree), while the other 2 had Moon up 1 (w/4 Even rds) and the 3rd had Moon up 1 (2-1-2...I don’t agree but at least I can see an argument). Rds 3-4 could be scored for Khaokor but I still felt Moon was landing better and more. Galaxy had begun warming up to the body and perhaps that would have taken its toll in the double digit rounds for a Galaxy stoppage or close comeback win...I do think the cards were leaving room for him to accomplish it, although I agree with the 5-0 Moon judge and that is my card. But I wouldn’t argue anyone who had it 3-2 or 4-1 both are in the realm of possibility.

    The stoppage was fair IMO as well. Looked like an accidental southpaw vs orthodox clash of the heads with both guys simultaneously moving in and Moon coming out on the bad end. Nasty wide gash and I doubt this fight would last long if they didn’t stop it here.

    I felt Moon winning a decision was the right call, although as a fan wanting 6 and 1/2 more I was disappointed.

    How would it have unfolded? I think it would mirror rounds 3-5 more than 1-2. Galaxy was coming on even if he wasn’t taking those rds momentum seemed to be at a standstill but Galaxy was looking more comfortable in there, and his body work would likely pay some dividends in rds 10-12. The way the cards were going I think he would have won a SD, but for me and the 3rd judge he would have needed a KD or 2 along the way or to sweep the rest of the fight. Had it gone 12 I lean towards a controversial Galaxy SD.
     
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  12. PhillyPhan69

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    Coming off of watching Vazquez prior to this I was disappointed by Khaokor. You would never guess that moon was in his 7th fight and Galaxy the more experienced.
     
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  13. PhillyPhan69

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    You say your card is wide in the 2nd fight but you may have given 2/10 to moon? Not sure if you did or not?

    The 3 judges did not score 1 rd for Moon, but 2 found 3 even rds while the 3rd found 6.

    Personally I had a Khaokor shutout 120-106, and think it was one of the most brilliant one sided performances I have ever seen against what I would call a high quality opponent.

    I didn’t find rd 2 as close as you did, but did find 4/10 the 2 most exciting rounds (although the whole fight is fun) of the night. Either 4 or 10 could be even, but I still felt Galaxy edged them unless I scored a close sympathy type rd.

    Moon was resilient and kept coming forward. He had to know he was losing but his face didn’t reveal any frustration or confusion....until rd 11 he looked a beaten man. His resolve to survive that round is impressive. Many refs may have waved it off, but this one did not.

    Galaxy? I have wondered why he took a year of fighting 3-4? Lightly regarded fights after the first Moon fight? I can only imagine that he lived and breathed this fight in his mind for that year. He had an answer for everything Moon threw at him, seemed to anticipate his every move and a counter or answer for everything. He made it look so smooth and effortless as well.

    The post fight festivities reveal a lot. Moon slumped in his corner looks a mess. Galaxy has his slicked back hair combed by his team center ring looks like he is going to a press conference rather than coming out of a 12 rd fight.
     
  14. PhillyPhan69

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    I have not read through this thread but I hope you have seen the Galaxy Vazquez fight in the subsequent years. Very tough close fight. Difficult to score, yet I had it wider than the widest judge. I wouldn’t argue someone who felt Vazquez edged it by a pt. But I felt Khaokor took it.
     
  15. PhillyPhan69

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    I miss gpater anyone know why he stopped posting