The more accomplished fighter: Michael Spinks or Carlos Monzon?

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  1. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Just a random comparison I thought up of. Who takes it?
     
  2. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    I think Monzon, I love Spinks but he only had like 31 or 32 fights, if there was one negative to hold against Michael, this would be it.
     
  3. teeto

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    I'm taking Spinks, only because the best men he beat at light heavy were mainly better solid light heavies than (respectively) Monzon'z best middleweight scalps were middles. Not man for man though, the likes of Valdez and Benvenuti (despite likely being a better 154 man) are top 160 pound scalps. But there's just likely a bit more effective meat in Spinks' 175 pound resume. And then there's his heavyweight foray, for what it's worth.

    Close in terms of greatness, very.
     
  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I like Monzon pound for pound but Spinks definately fought a better, more devisified crop of fighters. I have not seen Carlos fight one great, prime american boxer. The closest he came was the small, old Emile and had his hands full each time. I never saw Carlos fight a strong, well conditioned, fast boxer puncher his own size.
     
  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    why does this matter???:huh
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Monzon is a tad overrated. Most with disagree but I truly think Spinks was better.
     
  7. punk

    punk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    More accomplished fighter - Monzon
    More accomplished boxer - Spinks
     
  8. Sweet Pea

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    Spinks had 32 fights in all. Monzon went undefeated for the last 80 fights of his career, defending his MW title 12 times in the process and cleaning out the division. The names on Spinks's resume are superior, but at the time they were fought they weren't as far ahead of Monzon's opponents as is being made out. Valdez was just as good a MW as any of the LHW's Spinks beat IMO, and even an aging Emile Griffith was on par with most of them. The way I see it, both really only beat one prime A level fighter in their divisions (Spinks with Qawi and Monzon with Valdez). I give the edge to Monzon based on his longevity. Spinks was dominant, but Monzon proved it more often and more conclusively, IMO.
     
  9. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His hands were full with Briscoe, too.
     
  10. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He defended his title 14 times.
     
  11. teeto

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    Yeah it was Hagler with 12 i think.
     
  12. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd have to go with Spinks. He cleaned out LHW about as thoroughly Monzon and against at least as good competition IMO, but the upset of Holmes at HW definitely puts him over the top in my view.
     
  13. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monzon was the better fighter, but Spinks achieved more.
     
  14. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yep, I must've confused the two. Either way my point is only strengthened by that addition.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    Surprised to see Spinks getting the nod. Would people put him above Monzon in a top 100?