The more I revisit Calzaghe-Kessler..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Shake, Jan 23, 2008.


  1. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    First, I love it when you sing to me....:lol:

    But, you can most certainly have good accuracy with bad timing...just as long as you have good mechanics. Go watch the Calzaghe fight. Count how many times he is unable to pull the trigger with Joe WIDE open (noone is gonna mistake Calzaghe for Pernell Whitaker)...now go back and watch any of his other fights...you will see the same trend (showing that it wasnt the opponent, but the weakness).

    Accuracy and timing are two entirely different things...often mistaken for two things that go hand in hand.
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your man Hopkins losing to Calzaghe in a "legitimate" division will make you feel better?
     
  3. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm finding you to be very reasonable. I wish we could have had the pleasure of watching Calzaghe-Hopkins prime vs prime instead of mid-thirties vs early forties.

    It's a shame that match never happened. I'm convinced Calzaghe's camp never realized exactly how good their man was until it was almost too late.

    We'll have to make do with this one. I have massive respect for Hopkins and I'm sure if there's anything he can do to make it competitive, he will, but the odds, though he has a record of defying them, have never been against him quite like this.
     
  4. dan-b

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    I wouldn't argue with any of that.:good

    Well obviously I disagree with the losing part but like I said I won't be drawn on this anymore.

    As a side note it's annoying the way people think I must be a Calzaghe detractor because I don't heap praise on him like others & happen to be a fan of Hopkins. I've probably watched far more of his fights than half the fair weather fans on here.
     
  5. Astola

    Astola Its a fact. Full Member

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    Nonsense.

    Calzaghe has extreme defence and he is not a wide open foe.

    Accuracy and timing goes hand in hand. You NEED timing to be a good accurate puncher. And thats a fact.
     
  6. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's one thing that draws me to Hopkins-Calzaghe -- Hopkins short, motionless counter right hand. I'm wondering how it will play into the match -- will Calzaghe just walk through it? Will he eat when he falls forward, and become more cagey? Can Hopkins hurt him with it?

    I think the counter right hand is Hopkins best bet, as Joe tends to punch well inside. Counter 'm, then tie him up. Try and frustrate him.

    Yet I rewatched Kessler-Calzaghe today, and Joe's chin seems very sturdy. He'd probably walk through them.
     
  7. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Im not saying Kessler will not be a good fighter for a long time. In fact, I think the exact opposite....I think he will hold a few belts and be a top guy at 168 for awhile. Which all depends on whether he can stay at that weight for enough time...as I dont really see him beating many of the top LHWs.

    Thanks bro!!! And the sentiment is the same toward you.
     
  8. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    I stopped reading after that.

    Joe is one of my ALL TIME FAVORITE FIGHTERS! Been a fan of his since his win over Eubank (my respect for him has GROWN TENFOLD since then). But if you cant see that he is weak defensively then there is no need listen to anything else you have to say.

    :verysad
     
  9. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    And also, thanks.

    :good
     
  10. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    What's with you homos tonight?
     
  11. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Intentional Butt sang to me....the rest is history.

    And let me guess...you sensed homo talk...had to chime in.

    :yep
     
  12. dan-b

    dan-b Guest

    Coming from the man who constantly praises Joe's good looks.:lol:
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    You don't think Kessler is going to beat these LHW's -

    Johnson
    Tarver
    Jones
    Diaconu
    Woods
    Erdei

    If they fought?

    There is the top 10 mate essentially, Tarver and Jones are shot and Tarver would lose to him in his prime anyway, Jones obviously embarasses him and Calzaghe both though.

    Johnson's not beating anybody in Kessler's class.

    Diaconu is made for him.

    Woods may give him an okay fight, but he'll lose.

    Erdei gets embarassed.

    Hopkins is about to retire after getting thrashed, but would lose at this point in his own right.

    So aside from Dawson, which is 50/50, what LHW's beat Kessler?
     
  14. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Kessler is not fast in any way shape or form.
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    I've never seen this much love on ESB, the home of epic 20 page long racist threads, and xenophobia

    Oh well, I love you all too