The most dangerous counter in boxing | Ezzard Charles technique breakdown

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    The Modern Martial Artist
    Charles moved all the way up from middleweight to win the heavyweight title, if he was in his prime in today`s game what`s the highest weight that he could have won a world title at?
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  2. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    With modern day weight cutting, early in his career he could maybe make Welter or even super lightweight and I'd definitely imagine him winning a title in those divisions.

    Same goes for 154, 160, 168, 175, and cruiser.
    I could see him beating a Stiverne or Martin to win a title at heavyweight aswell.

    So I think he'd basically be a greater version of Roy Jones Jr.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Do you think he was better than Jones in his prime?
     
  4. Claw4075

    Claw4075 Ezzard Charles GOAT Full Member

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    Holy ****ing ****. Mad respect to The Modern Martial Atist.

    The absolute GOAT.
     
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  5. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can we please stop misrepresenting "modern day weight cutting" as some magic pill?

    Charles was a 160-pound amateur at 17! If we take it at your premise, you would have to believe Charles was a smaller man compared to Errol Spence- someone who never once weighed 140 as a pro, and consistently campaigned at 152 throughout his amateur career.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Spence is a huge welter.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Spence has a 72 inch reach, one inch smaller than Charles.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Mark, You look different?
     
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    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    He changes his hair a lot doesn't he.
     
  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano had a 1 and a half inch shorter reach than Torpedo Billy Murphy.

    Reach is not a good indication of size.
     
  11. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Spence is a big welterweight. So a 30 something year old Spence being around the same size as a 20 year old Charles, who eventually matured out of the weight, isnt all that hard to fathom.
     
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  12. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    I think it's close but, I would say yes he was slightly better than Jones Jr in his prime.
     
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  13. Quick Cash

    Quick Cash Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is wrong. Spence couldn't make 140 at any point in his adult life.
    At 17, Charles was already 160 pounds, while Spence was at 152.
    At 28, when Spence was 156 on the night against Ocampo, Ezzard Charles was heavyweight champion of the world.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    Charles at 20 years old was still having to cut down to MW. He filled during military labour and so stayed around LHW - although preferred to come in a few pounds under the limit. Spence's highest in ring weight is probably about 166, which Charles was at 21 years old.

    Charles' size is far more comparable to GGG's than it is Spence's.
     
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  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's too big to make welter, he'd look like an anemic person at that weight. :lol:

    He'd still start at MW.
     
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