The most overrated fighter in mma

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by The Phenom, Feb 26, 2009.


  1. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok he ducked Liddell years ago but how does that make him overatted ? Right now as a fighter hes underratted he is called shot and things like that but in recent years he did defeat Forrest Griffin,Rashad Evans sure it was a draw but Ortiz did in reality win more rounds just the stupid point deduction came into play,Hes the only guy to even do anything at all to Machida when he was so close to tapping him I think sweat played a factor. In his prime he was pretty badass to considering the time in which it was I know he was the greatest striker but wins over Evan Tanner,Matshuenko,Vitor Belfort,Wanderlei Silva ETC that means something. Tito is a future Hall of Famer no doubt about it and he aint totally done yet.
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Id like to see GSP defend the WW belt a few times before I compare him to "prime" Hughes. They ****ing shipped a prime Sakurai from Japan for him and he ****in manhandled MAch. People forget that the the Hughes in the first GSP fight is not prime Hughes, he was a bull who never "gave up" in his prime. This guy used to pick up people, walk with them and slam them, never seen anyone do that the way Matt used to do it.
     
  3. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im not a Hughes fan but you gotta give him his respect I mean this guy has balls he took the 2nd BJ Penn fight on 30 days notice knowing what BJ already did to him,took the 3rd GSP fight on 30 days notice already knowing was GSP did to him in the 2nd bout,hell even Thiago Alves was on short notice Hughes didnt care. His 2nd fight agianst Frank Trigg was one of the greatest displays of heart ive seen in MMA dude is kicked in the balls,almost stopped on the ground with strikes and is turning purple in the face being choked out with the RNC but escapes picks up a strong guy like Trigg runs across the octagon slams him down like something out of a WWE match and chokes him out with the same hold. Just crazy stuff Matt Hughes is a warrior and a legend.
     
  4. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    ??? It's GSP who did take the 3rd fight with Hughes in short notice..Because of Serra who injured himself?
     
  5. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hughes was going to fight Serra for the belt, Serra got hurt, Hughes said "I'll fight GSP", Liddell was going to fight Shogun, Liddell got hurt, Hughes fights Thiago Alves on late notice.

    Say what you want, but he's fought the best and will fight them at any time.
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pele, Mezger, Overeem, Silva when they were both past it; he fought grapplers because grapplers are usually the best fighters.

    If you think Hughes had weak opponents, you simply don't have a brain.
     
  7. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    I never said otherwise apart that the man is a pure **** and a piece of **** but that's just my opinion on the MAN. The fighter, on the other side, is a true warrior, nothing to say in bad for his career.
     
  8. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't mean to imply you did, its just an expression.

    I was just clearing up the short notice thing; although GSP also took the 3rd one under less than perfect circumstances I think.
     
  9. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    my bad


    Who would you favour
    Jon Fitch vs a prime Matt Hughes?
     
  10. brandon9624

    brandon9624 Member Full Member

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    Yes, I agree for all the hoopla Evans and Machida are getting, Ortiz nearly beat both, and he may or may not get rematches. I have more respect for him now than ever before. But back when Ortiz was champ, it was clear Liddell was the gatekeeper, Ortiz even gave up the belt not to fight Liddell, then has the nerve to come back and call himself champ after Couture wins (who he thinks is a washed up fighter, easy win), and Couture destroys him.
    I'll give him props on the UFC 25 Wandy win.
     
  11. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah I know what you mean and Tito would always play that me and Chuck are like best freinds card and according to Chuck they never hung or anything just aquintances. He did atleast fight him though although he didnt have much of a choice I suppose taking on Liddell in 04 was the only way to get back to the top and in 06 Liddell was the Champ and he would be a real true ***** for turning down a title shot. Tito knew Chuck would be a stylistic nightmare back in 02-03 and wasnt about to risk his long title reign I understand why he ducked him but it never ever makes it right. Give Chuck credit to the guy risked his title shot by fighting Babalu and Randy Couture thats a badass.
     
  12. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hughes didnt have to take the fight on that short notice noboddy forced him to but he accepted it which shows balls considering what GSP did to him the year before he could easily have waited to April to fight Serra and take the easier way of getting his belt back. Training for Serra and training for GSP is alot different.
     
  13. Coast

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    Overeem was only 23 and had won 12 in a row when Chuck knocked him out.

    Pele was 25 and had won 6 in a row. It was only Lidell's 2nd fight.

    Can you explain what you mean by "past it"?
     
  14. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He means Wanderlei Silva when they where both past it notice he says ,Silva when they where both past it.
     
  15. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As in W.Silva and Liddell.