The most overrated fighter in mma

Thanks, now I get it.

 

I have one, Stephen Bonnar. This guy gets so much TV time and cant even beat Bobby Southworth in TUF

 

Tough to say because I am a bigger Hughes fan; so if I say Hughes I think I am letting my emotions get in the way, if I say Fitch I think I am overcompensating against my emotions.

Fitch certainly has the striking advantage, but a prime Hughes seemed to be able to take everybody down.

Lets just say I don't feel 100% confident in picking Hughes; Trigg was able to get the better of the early wrestling against Hughes, and while Fitch is not as technical as Trigg, he is bigger and a better striker.

On the other hand, when Fitch was on the ground with GSP in his guard, it was one sided; Hughes might have looked to pass a little more than GSP did that fight, and if Hughes gets passed the guard, that is close to the fight being over.

 

Yea, I could have used better punctuation to clear that up, but I did mean when Liddell and Wandy were getting a bit old.

 

I dpn't see Hughes beating Fitch at all, let's be honest without his takedowns Hughes is nothing and that's no secret, Hughes hasn't beat a new age MMA fighter since his win over B.j. which he was losing anyhow.

 

but a prime Hughes had that explosivness required for takedown. Now he isnt agressive. And a passive Hughes, and probably shot, isnt gonna make him win fight.

Even Serra will beat him. Yes.

 

Yes, he was losing, until he was winning.

Or do you actually believe yet another whiney excuse from the master of whiney exuse denial?

He will make Serra look like the never was lightweight he is.

 

Chill with the BJ makes excuses thing if I remember correctly his fans where the ones making excuses for him after that fight. BJ then wrote on his website he suffered a broken rib which is a serious thing ive broke mine to and it has incredible effects on you but he never used it as an excuse go read his book and see what he says bout that fight. BJs fans make excuses not him but BJ is kinda whiny ill admitt. He reminds me of James Toney in so many ways.

 

Exactly, HE SAID he broke his rib, the NSAC commision said nothing, and gave no medical suspension, which a broken/seperated rib would absolutely get.

Also if you believe the rib broke at all, you have to belief that BJ both knows with 100% certainty when it broke; if Hughes broke it with one of 100 elbows, it isn't exactly "bad luck" is it?

Hughes beat Penn straight up, no qualifications needed, no excuses acceptable.

 

Urijah Faber.

 

Well he says it broke it in the 2nd round and it shows considering BJ came out in round 3 and Hughes used him as target practice easily got him down,passed and beat him without BJ being able to put up a fight. I remember when I broke my rib being taken down in the gym I couldnt breathe or move my upperbody without going through the most horrible pains ive ever felt.

 

Sakurai flown in, used to fighting in rings and didn't have his steroids? Penn is smaller and any top guy at that weight should beat him, GSP impressive yes but bad performance from GSP and avenged, Trigg is suited for Hughes to a tee, Gracie was absolute dog**** when Hughes fought him, Newton loses to most people that are good.

Anyway, the point of this thread I thought was to pick fighters that are rated super high in the first place.

 

When he fought Jardine he got exposed for me. Really simple plan and he did not have a clue what to do. Wandy was just swinging wildly in that match, if he hadn't been so determined to be entertaining, he could have won. Can't ever see Liddell beating someone like Lyoto at any point in his career.

Hughes comp (that he beat, anyway) is weak compared to people considered on his level, I would say. Again, if you're saying overrated, you have to pick someone who's rated in the first place.