The most special unique talents in the past 20 years.

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  1. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Stopped reading at had no skill lol
    Not as skilled and relied more on reflex than say Barrera
    But his footwork
    Switch hitting
    Distance
    Timing
    Lateral movement you mad
    Yeah his inside defence and lack of a persistent jab were a hindrance
    But to claim he had no skill is crazy imo
     
  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Tyson Fury

    Best super heavyweight of all time. Doing things NO OTHER superheavy has ever done & even smaller HW's can do.

    Best technical heavyweight since Larry Holmes.
     
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  3. tinman

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    ATG stamina requires great workrate. And there were numerous guys with faster hands. Combos is a part of speed period.
     
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  4. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    no.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Name the faster fighters. This should be interesting. And before you start pleaer dont say pac because pbf already proved to be faster than both hand and foot than him and i said that for years.
     
  6. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    So let’s see here...Floyd had better hand and foot speed, was taller, had greater reach...and still refused to fight Manny when Manny was prime:confused:
    Bud, Floyd was a genuinely great talent, off the chart ring IQ, first ballot hall of famer, spartan discipline etc...but he was also a cherry picker who had no problem ducking his biggest threats and for that he’ll always be a couple of levels below SRL, Arguello, Hagler, Hearns and to say nothing of Duran.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    How Pacquiao looked at 36 means nothing compared to how he looked at 26. Faster reflexes is clearly Floyd. Faster feet and combos clearly Pac. Faster single shot is debatable.

    Mayweather was never uniquely fast. Judah is faster, Linares is just as fast. Ledwaba was faster. Russell Jr. Is faster. Usyk for his size is just as fast. Khan was just as fast. Mike Tyson for his size was faster. Hearns and Leonard were faster. Duran just as fast. RJJ is faster.

    That's not even a complete list or close to it. Mayweather is fast, but never had ATG speed. He never possessed any physical freakish tool. Never had crazy dimensions for his weight. Morales for example ead same height and reach at 2 divisions lower. He never used an unorthodox style.

    Hes just a very sound, very athletic fighter.

    And 3 straights isn't that rare. I saw Pac hit Julio with 3 straights in a row and then he went down after the 3rd one. It happens in boxing.
     
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  8. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No mention of Ricardo Lopez? He was a textbook example of how a perfect fighter should be.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Biggest lie and myth in boxing roach said on a video ive posted here atleast 10 times that tge reason why the fight didnt happen back in 2010 was because they didn't want testing and it was their fault. Id post it again but youd just ignore it and continue the myth
     
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  10. macademics

    macademics Active Member Full Member

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    His ability to adapt so quickly to opponents is unreal. Mayweather wasn't just a elite fighter, he was gifted boxing prodigy who fulfilled his boxing potential. What he possessed is something you cannot teach. His mixture of talent, skill, speed and relentless work ethic puts him way out in front of any fighter of the last 20 years.
     
  11. macademics

    macademics Active Member Full Member

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    Who's remembers Pacquaio requesting testing ONLY on certain days leading up to the fight?
     
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  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    It is rare pac never landed 3 straught right hands like pbf did on ndou. Stop it.
    For the last time amir khan isnt faster than pbf. You're the same guy who said for years that pac was faster than pbf yet when they fought he was clearly a step slower of both hand and foot. Prime for prime pbf was always faster. Pac looked fast because he was usually always fighting guys who were slow and there to be hit. He got in the ring with pbf a real athlete and looked much slower and pbf was older than him.
     
  13. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    No sir, I will not deny it. The bare-assed truth is that neither of them wanted it. Pacquiao was juiced...and so was Floyd. Perhaps you deny that? But you haven’t addressed my points that I made above; namely, that Floyd was taller, had much greater reach, had greater hand and foot speed and had been fighting at 147 longer, had thouroughly dominated the one man who had given Manny the most trouble, whom he called a midget...and still refused to fight Manny?! Like I said, Floyd is a first ballot guy but who is still many rungs down the ATG ladder.
     
  14. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    His mixture of Roy Jones Jr getting sparked by Tarver, an incredible media machine and good old fashioned cherry picking play a just as large, if not larger, part of his legacy.
     
  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even with video proof of Roach admitting it was their fault the fight didn't happen earlier, it baffles me how people have the nerve to still try and put it on Floyd. Is it ignorance, or delusion?
     
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