The Muhammad Ali-Oscar Bonavena fight.

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  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How did you all score it ?

    At the time of Muhammad stopping his man in the fifteenth,I had him pretty clearly in front,though it was,physically,a tough one for him.
     
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  2. Lord Tywin

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    I had it very close.

    I thought Bonavena should have gotten the knockdown call.

    I also thought Ali should have been made to return to a neutral corner after the KDs.
     
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  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1 shouldn't Xpect n Ali opponent 2 benefit from a long count , should he ? such a benefit is only reserved 4 "Boxing"'s most priviledged darlings : Gene Tunney , Walker Smith Jr. . Ali himself benefited from a similar phenomenon in n Xtended break between rds with d benefit of smelling slats in it . But when n Ali opponent goes down , he should Xpect a short count .. as was d case with George Foreman as well .
     
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  4. Stevie G

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    No doubt you thought that Bonavena was winning,hands down,Frankie ?:D
     
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  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    franks wrong about Bonavena "winning" if that's what he really thinks..instead, it was a gallant effort from Ringo in a fight he couldn't possibly win, but he gave it his best.
     
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  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with this..Ali was given the benefit of a doubt way too often in his career.
     
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  7. Stevie G

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    As I'm always saying about Bonavena,Cobra,he may not have been a world beater,but he'd always give the world's best a good fight.
     
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  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    did not think so , just think that he deserved d same rules that every1 else does . Just another bought referee .
    Honestly i only watched it once so far , so i might change my mind if i'll rewatch it or score it .
     
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  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depending on your definition of "world's best" .
    I doubt if i'd consider Zora Folley , especially by d time he beat Bonavena as a world beater , but , it's open 2 definition and arbitrary numerics .
     
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  10. Stevie G

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    I was talking,mainly,about hypothetical fights,Frank. Oscar would have been a rugged opponent for most of the champs of the past. Obviously I don't think he'd actually have beaten that many though.
     
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  11. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali felt like it was a close fight IMO......otherwise, he wouldn't have stood over Oscar trying to end the fight.

    Wonder if Ali would have got the Frazier fight next.....if he had lost?
     
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  12. Stevie G

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    The FOTC would n't have taken place. We'd have had Frazier-Bonavena III instead. Does n't have quite the same ring to it,does it ?
     
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  13. Ali_

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    Yeah. Ali's career is wrought with gifts and gimmie's because everyone back then loved him so much.
     
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  14. Dempsey1238

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    The ref did a poor job of keeping control. He should have made Ali go to a netural corner. I not saying Bonavena would have won had Ali went to a corner, he still would have lost, but this was Ali at his worse in dirty fighting imo.

    This was not longer the Jack Dempsey era. Ali should have lost a point or so perhaps. Or no count.
     
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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96MYTogoXLc[/ame]

    Hard to find a better punch then that sharp left hook at :6 Ouch..
     
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