The "MYTH" of boxing superstars???

Oh Cry Me a Fuc.king River, you sensitive ****...

 

his Tommy Hearns is Manny Pac and he wont fight him.

 

manny ran from the fight after issuing a long list of demands right? He ran from one floyd request!! Tim bradley, signed a contract with arum again. Martinez, ggg, are scared to fight ward right?

 

Void is still running from Pac and he always will because he is afraid. If Void ever gets' the nerve to fight Void he will get his arse kicked. Void is a legend in his own mind...........

 

I get your point. I too feel boxing has lost it's allure over the years. Then again, I'm not a young kid anymore. I grew up watching the likes of Roy Jones, Tyson, Holyfield, Toney etc... The fighters who made the sport so popular and worth watching in the 90's. Until the mid 2000's, when my favorite fighters got old and started to lose more than win.

It's a hard pill to swallow, but you need to let go of the past decades. In our minds, nothing or no future fighters will compare to staying up late on a Saturday night. HBO theme song blaring from the living room, Jim Lampley hyped up as ever and Larry Merchant rattling off another story that has next to nothing to do with boxing.

I guess what I'm trying to say is. I love boxing, and have since found fighters to get excited about again. I still look forward to watching the likes of Mayweather, Hopkins, Haye, Ward etc... We may never see another Tyson, but it will be something for us to tell our kids that we grew up watching one of the most exciting fighters of all-time.

 

Basically what's happening and it's took a long time with the effect of the split alphabet titles the chickens are finally coming home to roost.
Alphabet title holders now just want to protect their belt and if apprpriate their "0" by fighting nobody's and bums.
I don't want to sound like my grandfather but in the old days with 8 weight classes and 1 belt holder basically champions couldn't hide,eventually they had to fight the best guys.
Fair enough some ducked and dived then and some good men didn't get a shot,but on the whole the big match ups were made.
Also most of those guys wanted to fight the best and establish a legacy.
I'm seeing fighters holding world title belts now who wouldn't have been near top ten ranked contenders 30 or 40 years ago and beyond,Ricky Burns is a prime example.
There's 2 lads from my area Stuart Hall and Martin Ward fighting for the IBF World Bantamweight title at the end of this month and this is a prime example.
Two good honest pro's but world champions? I bet most on here haven't heard of them. I don't like to say it because they're local lads and some might give me a bit of stick,but once again they wouldn't have been near a world title shot years ago.

 

Manny v Floyd again, eh?

This is not the 1st "great fight" to never materialize and it won't be the last. There is plenty of blame to go around.

With the accusations, lawsuits, Hitler comparisons, etc. it's gotten to a personal level it never should have.

To the usual suspects, don't kid yourselves, Manny has had plenty of chances to make this fight happen. Walking away from OSDT (with a 14 day cutoff) and a $40 million dollar offer isn't small potatoes.

 

Who's a Champion at this time and who is on the comeback trail? They will fight in the future.

 

While I agree with most of what the OP has to say, he is forgetting for the moment how great the Barrera-Morales and Pacquiao-Marquez fights were. We didn't get Pac-Mayweather but we still got those and people take them for granted. And he's assuming that boxing only has room for two stars at a time, but what about Cotto, Martinez, Marquez, Hopkins, Klitschko, and Ward? Do they not count? What about Donaire, Alvarez, GGG, and Froch? How much money or how many pay per views do you need to be a star?

It really depends where you are on the globe when we talk about who's a star and who's not too. In the Philippines Donaire is a super star second only to Pac, and tens of millions watch his fights. Here's the percent of the country that watched each.

7/7/12 ABS-CBN Nonito Donaire Jr. vs. Jeffrey Mathebula 29.1%
4/13/13 ABS-CBN Nonito Donaire Jr. vs. Guillermo Rigondeaux 28.9%
10/13/12 ABS-CBN Nonito Donaire Jr. vs. Toshiaki Nishioka 28.8%
8/15/09 GMA-7 Nonito Donaire Jr. vs. Rafael Concepcion 27.6%
2/4/12 ABS-CBN Nonito Donaire Jr. vs. Wilfredo Vazquez 26.2%
2/13/10 ABS-CBN Nonito Donaire Jr. vs. Manuel Vargas 26.0%
2/19/11 ABS-CBN Nonito Donaire Jr. vs. Fernando Montiel 25.7%
10/22/11 ABS-CBN Nonito Donaire Jr. vs. Omar Andres Narvaez 25.4%
11/09/13 Nonito Donaire Jr. vs Vic Darchinyan 23.6%
12/15/12 ABS-CBN Nonito Donaire Jr. vs Jorge Arce 29.7%

In Japan Koki Kameda draws more viewers than Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao.

11/29/09 Koki Kameda vs Daisuke Naito 43.1% Tokyo Broadcasting System
Koki Kameda vs Juan Jose Landaeta 42%
All Kameda bros card 33%
8/31/11 Koki Kameda vs David 16.7%

In the Ukraine they watch the Klitschko fights.

10-11-12 Wlad Klitchko vs Marius Wach on Inter tv 50.7 share = 10.6 million viewers over 18.
08-09-12 Vitali Klitschko vs Manuel Charr did a 45.2 share.
02-18-12 Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora 14.54 million viewers and a 52.7% share.
03-03-12 Wladimir Klitschko vs Jean Marc Mormeck 9.28 million and a 32.8% share.
07-07-12 Wlad Klitschko vs Tony Thompson 8.63 million and 48.03% of viewers.
07-12-08 Wlad Klitschko vs Thompson: Ukraine 59.5% 7,100,000 viewers Inter channel, Germany 54.1%10 million people RTL channel.

In Mexico Saul Alvarez and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr are stars.

2011-03-05 Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton 24 million mexican viewers
2013-09-14 Mayweather vs Alvarez 77 percent share, 22.1 million viewers on Televisa Channel 5
2013-04-20 Trout vs Alvarez 28 point rating and over 15 million viewers

2012-02-04 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr vs Marco Antonio Rubio 19 million viewers
2011-11-19 Chavez Jr vs Peter Manfredo Jr did 18 million viewers in Mexico
2011-11-12 Pacquioa vs Marquez III in Nov. 2011 did 33 or 37.1 million viewers in Mexico on Azteca 7
2010-11-13 Pacquiao vs Margarito 32.4 million viewers in Mexico

In Argentina Sergio Martinez is a star.

09/15/12 Martinez vs Chavez Jr 13 million viewers. 25.5 rating at TyC and 14.1 rating at Direct TV
4/27/13 Channel Seven Martinez vs Martin Murray 24.7 rating

In Germany besides the Klitschko bros who are good for between 8-15 million viewers a fight, Arthur Abraham, Felix Sturm, and Marco Huck do well.

Abraham-Taylor (17.10.09): 6,02 Mio / 36,4% MA
Abraham-Marquez (ARD, 08.11.08): 5,97 Mio / 26,6% MA
Sturm-Sylvester (ZDF, 01.11.08): 5,91 Mio / 22,6% MA
Abraham-Ayala (ARD, 29.03.08): 5,86 Mio / 30,6% MA
Abraham-Simon (ARD, 14.03.09): 5,76 Mio / 29,1% MA
Abraham-Oral (ARD, 25.06.09): 5,41 Mio / 30,0% MA
Sturm-Lorenzo (Sat.1, 04.09.10): 5,27 Mio / 28,2% MA
Sturm-Gevor (ZDF, 11.07.09): 5,12 Mio / 25,8% MA
Abraham-Farias (ARD, 14.01.12): 5,09 Mio / 22,4% MA
Abraham-El**** (ARD, 08.12.07): 5,07 Mio / 24,5% MA
Abraham-Gevor (ARD, 18.08.07): 5,02 Mio / 34,2% MA
Abraham-Froch (ARD, 27.11.10): 5,01 Mio / 28,2% MA
Sturm-Griffin I (ZDF, 20.10.07): 5,00 Mio / 19,6% MA
Abraham-Stieglitz (ARD, 25.08.12): 4,92 Mio / 29,2 % MA
Sturm-Hearns (Sat.1, 19.02.11): 4,74 Mio / 22,0% MA
Sturm-Sato (ZDF, 25.04.09): 4,68 Mio
Abraham-Wilczewski (ARD, 31.03.12): 4,66 Mio / 19,9% MA
Abraham-Bozic (ARD, 12.02.11): 4,65 Mio / 22,4% MA
Sturm-Macklin (Sat.1, 25.06.11): 4,55 Mio / 23,8% MA

Acelino Freitas was a star in Brazil and Anthony Mundine and Daniel Geale are big deals in Australia.