The myth of RJJ as a big PPV draw...

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  1. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    I'm a huge Roy fan, but there's a serious misconception about how many PPV sales he can generate. Trinidad / Jones did great numbers, but the responsibility for that lies solely on Tito's shoulders. Roy fought prince Badi on PPV and garnered abysmal figures, and while I know noone gives a **** about Badi, Roy was never, ever in the same stratosphere as Trinidad or Hoya, who could fight badis all day and still put asses in the seats.
     
    janeschicken, Jun 18, 2008
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  2. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know about you, but i've not heard of many people who regard Jones as a big PPV-seller. He simply never was.
     
    richie leon, Jun 18, 2008
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  3. Joe Jeanette

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    the only one who thinks that roy jones is a draw is joe calzaghe. pavlik UD calzaghe!
     
    Joe Jeanette, Jun 18, 2008
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  4. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i still regard him as one the most extra-ordinary fighters ever. sometimes it seemed a little too easy for him. despite the fact he wasn't as big draw ppv he still made lots of money.
     
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  5. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its simple ... people pay a lot to see Jones being KOed again and again ... thats perfect PPV stuff
     
    Stinky gloves, Jun 18, 2008
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  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    The numbers for Jones/Trinidad had a lot to do with both fighters. I tuned in because I really thought it would be the last hurrah for both men.
     
    booradley, Jun 18, 2008
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  7. PJ

    PJ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope...
    It was Tito's doing...
     
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  8. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is not as big as those guys (DLH and Trinidad). Very ver few fighters ever reach those levels. He was definatly above hopkins who for some ridiculous reason thought he deserved a 50/50 split.
     
    thewoo, Jun 18, 2008
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  9. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't know about this statement if you're basing it on the the Badi fight. RJJ vs Badi had little promotion (b/c wasn't it some small co maybe even Rjj's co putting on the ppv) and not many had heard of Badi and RJJ was coming off two bad losses. Furthermore, trinidad and hoya don't fight Badi types on PPV. Look at ODLH, he fought Forbes (who has a higher profile than Badi) and that's on basic cable.
     
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  10. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    of coruse badi was gonna do bad numbers, but look how well tarver did?????
     
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  11. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    so, who do you think would do bigger numbers...hypotheically. Joe C VS Tito, or Joe C vs Jones Jr.
     
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  12. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    Right...and before Rocky no one outside of boxing really knew Tarver.
     
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  13. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    Bull****. Jones had just as much to do with the Trinidad fight being as big as it was. Look up the numbers for Jones/Ruiz, because it certainly wasn't Ruiz wwho made that fight.
     
    unclepaulie, Jun 18, 2008
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  14. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Both of these fights will do great numbers simply becuase of the three names you have there, However if you pitched Trinidad vs Miranda, against a fight between lets say Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe I think Trinidad vs Miranda will do bigger numbers.
     
    Bazooka, Jun 18, 2008
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  15. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    At that time i was very mad at Roy for not accepting it,now i realize a 60/40 split was generous to Hopkins.Roy was the number 1 fighter at that moment.
     
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