The myth of superheavyweight dominance

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Feb 10, 2012.


  1. Guyfawkes

    Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! Full Member

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    You don't know **** about me or my boxing experience so stfu you glass jawed girl
     
  2. nick6

    nick6 Active Member Full Member

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    Anyone who says size isn't an advantage should try sparring or fighting with people bigger than them. Even something as little as 10-20lbs makes a massive difference in punching power and strength even though it doesn't sound like a lot. Well thats what i have found anyway.
     
  3. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl:nut

    Embarrassing.
     
  4. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That tells me all I need to know tough guy :rofl
     
  5. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Something tells me you don't apply this same nonsensical criteria when talking of Sonny Liston. Would I be right in that?
     
  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You think they can?
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Liston wasn't a good body puncher, no. He had longer arms than either Klitschko, I think. When on the inside, he looked wild and uncontrollable.

    He was a better body puncher than either Klitschko though, because he wasn't as straight or stiff as they are.
     
  8. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    To get a real indication of whether size means much at heavyweight it would make sense to take every fight in a certain length of time (a decade, 2 decades, more?) and find out how often the taller fighter won. I'd expect the taller fighters to have the better win ratio. If height makes no difference or is a bad thing then the smaller fighters should win 50% or more of the time

    Out of how many fights? Also he didn't get KO'd, he was TKO'd in those fights
     
  9. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Has it never occurred to you that both Klitschko chose to fight to their strengths, ie fight tall? Who knows, maybe you along with Tyson Fury are right all along, perhaps both Klitschko's should throw their successful textbook style out the window and adopt the British Tyson Fury style of fighting, ie be 6'9 and fight as if your 5'9.
     
  10. Maximus

    Maximus TKO6 Full Member

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    The only people that believe height and size are a factor when deciding greatness are Klitschko fans, and most of them are ******ed at best. Why even start a thread about it?
     
  11. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't even need to go that far back, or even use great fighters as examples. Think Guinn-Grant, Haye-Harrison and Adamek-Golota. Less than great fighters taking apart world-ranked opponents 30-40lbs heavier.

    Height and weight are obviously factors, but are much less relevant if the heavier guy just isn't that good. The Klitschkos apart, the vast majority of the superheavies in recent years fall into that category.
     
  12. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    :lol:

    I could give examples of bigger guys beating smaller guys

    Wlad-Byrd
    Bowe-Holyfield
    Lewis-Tua
    Valuev-Barrett
    Vitali-Hide

    Individual fights don't mean anything. I bet statistically the taller heavyweight is more likely to win a fight. If that's the case then 'height means nothing' is shown to be bull****
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your girly rant would be more appropriate if I hadn't already agreed with you.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does this include being an inch or two difference? Or are you only going to consider a genuine height advantage, such as 4" or more?
     
  15. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    I suppose you could disregard all fights where the guys were within 2 inches of each other in height if you wanted. I doubt it will make a difference