The myth that Douglas quit against Tucker

Buster appeared to be well trained to go 8 rds....... Had his fight with Tucker in '87 been a mere 8 rounder, Buster D. would've won a decision... After 8 rds, Buster D. looked winded and was looking for an exit... YES! He did get tagged good in rds 9 and 10 and, he stopped fighting and allowed the ref to waive it over.... Tucker wins..... I think Buster's conditioning was suspect in that IBF title fight....

NOW! Most folks forget, but Buster came back a year later in 1988 and beat the **** outta Mike Williams on the "Tyson-Spinks" undercard... Buster looked sharp and focused when he extinguished "The Blow-Torch."

MR.BILLbbb:hat

 

Yeah, I was very impressed with Douglas against Mike Williams.
The best HW action of the bill.
Tyson-Spinks was a massive disappointment and the Truth Williams v Berbick "eliminator" was a stinker.

 

I recently watched Tucker Douglas. I had the fight even going into the stoppage.

 

Yep....:good

"Tyson-Spinks" sucked ass... Spinks went out from a side-arm Tyson right that clipped the top part of his head.... Such resilience from Michael...
:rofl:blood

MR.BILL:hat

 

I dont know how anyone could discount the shot Tyson landed on Spinks. That was a right uppercut to the side of his head. His eyes rolled back like a slot machine. That was a hell of a shot. Douglas did look sharp on the undercard.

 

I agree. People here tell me it was a "devastating uppercut" - probably egged on by Ray Leonard's commentary - bur it looked like a low-slung short right without a great deal of follow-thru on it.

 

Spoken from a guy whose never boxed before. That was a shoulder snapping badass shot. Lets see you roll your eyes back in your head like that. :nut

 

"Shoulder snap" or not, that punch had hardly any follow-through. It hardly punched through the target, just a stabbing jolt at the target. I'm sure it was a hurtful punch, but not one you'd expect an elite heavyweight to succumb to. Spinks had low resilience there, as MR BILL said.

Everyone's eyes will roll back if they fall over backwards, that's gravity.

Anyway, the point is, the fight was disappointing and ended up looking like a mismatch, whether or not you think that was one of Tyson's best shots ever.

 

Wrong and wrong. If a punch is delivered like that one and the snap is at the connecting point like that one was, it creates a big effect. The short punches are the most devastating. Probably one of Tysons best shots.

 

He just got caught, hurt, Tucker didn't let up, Douglas didn't know what to do, it was a Frank Bruno moment, not knowing what to do when being hammered. He was sort of looking to back up but was on the ropes, he needed to get his hands up or counter down the middle. The fact he didn't doesn't mean he quit, he didn't have the survival skills. Then again I half think it was a premature stoppage

 

Doesn't this stem from a clip of this shown in Legendary Nights?

I felt it was a decent stoppage, he got caught and then Tucker was piling it on.

 

well this is actualy the topic of discussion. is going out on your shield quitting? is running away and playing overly safe quitting?

tucker piled on the pressure and douglas couldnt keep up and fell apart.
i dont think that is quitting that is just losing.

 

:dealyeah. and a reason when a taylor-chavez thread pops up the word "philly fighter" gets thrown around...not for frazier, not for benton, not for briscoe, not for cooper, not for crawley, not for munroe, not for lee, not for hart, not for hopkins, not for muhammad, not for holmes (debatable if he is a true philly)......but meldrick taylor. oh yeah he lost because he is a philly fighter.:dead

 

I would have to disagree in the strongest of terms. Frank Bruno was out. Douglas was hurt. Big difference.

Bruno couldn’t choose to do anything he was a dead man taking free shots against the ropes. Do you think Bruno was awake and became confused "what shall I do? Il just put my hands down and stand still.." Frank wasn't walking to his corner under his own steam when ever he was stopped.

Douglas was fast losing desire when he got clipped, he wasn’t out of it, just momentarily disorientated and not quite focussed enough or fired up enough to allow his instinct to respond. He wasn’t allowing tucker to hit him, he walked back to his corner under his own steam not even angry with himself. there was no more fire in his belly. He wanted to go home. he had already decided he had tried his best and that it wasn’t worth pushing it. subconsciously I feel Douglas kinda hoped the ref would stop it.

sometimes its draining if you have been doing prety well and not making enough effect on your opponent and he still seems to have more left. It can bother some fighters, "Im not getting anywhere here and hes still after me" You start to think you are running on empty when you are not. Like I say Buster did not want it enough, his attitude was "Ive done ten rounds, not sure I can go 15, its a harder fight than I wanted, I want to go home".