The myth that Pacquiao has developed amazing power

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  1. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    He hasn't.

    He hit Diaz with everything and still went into the later rounds. Diaz said he just couldn't cope with the speed.

    He hit Oscar with everything, but couldn't put him down. It was the blinding speed and angles that did it, not the power. The bigger man just couldn't handle the speed.

    Hatton walked in with his hands down, got hit clean by everything Pacquiao threw. Took about 80 power punches in 2 rounds. Hatton got his clock cleaned after taking immense punishment and not seeing the punch coming. Again, angles and speed did for him.

    Same for Cotto, put him down with punches he never saw. Cotto just wasn't quick enough to stop Pacquiao. Not a legitimate stoppage really, Cotto could have seen out 12.


    What's happened is, the biggers guys can't cope with the angles and speeds. He's not blasting these guys out, he's catching them with shots they don't see coming and he's hitting them with power punch after power punch, because of the blistering speed and crazy angles.
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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  3. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    LOL I guess they expect Pacquiao to be Fat and Lazy going up in weight. I guess that's how the Mayweathers and their Fan boys especially the so called Boxing experts who said they know more since they paid $50 to train at a gym. LOL
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was an article detailing Pacquiao's fight night weights going back to Morales, and guess what? The man has only fluctuated by 4 pounds in fight night weight for the last 2 years about.

    I lost the link and my google skills are failing. However, all ya gotta do is do a screen cap of the HBO tale of the tape to see.
     
  5. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hmm not so sure about that. Speed was definitely a part of it, but really the last three fights is where the questions arise.

    ODLH has a good chin and he was beaten up pretty badly.

    Cotto was hurt badly and never recovered by a single uppercut in the 4th

    Hatton was knocked out seriously in the early rounds by a single lefthand.

    Certainly we would have seen this type of one punch power against world class opponents at the lower weights??
     
  6. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    it isnt just his power, but that fact he was getting knocked out by flyweights and struggled with lightweights, than all of a sudden he is KOing and walking down welters



    i actually thought pac was clean though, until you look at that and add his reluctance to random testing
     
  7. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/Th...ossible?_why_steroid_accusations_are_baseless
     
  8. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Oscar himself said that Pac's punches didn't hurt, just that Pac's speed allowed him to constantly bounce punches off his face. Oscar even said that he wanted Pac to have KO power so he could put Oscar out of his misery.

    Cotto was swinging wildly and got caught by a big left hand that he never saw at all. He got deterred, because he was losing the boxing match and losing the brawl too.

    And Hatton took loads of punches off Pac, but if you keep your hands down and telegraph your left hand, if somebody then lands a beautiful straight left right on to your chin, then you're going to be out for the count.


    Pac floored Marquez 3 times before he adjusted to his speed. That was a peak Marquez at his favourite weight struggling to cope with the speed, obviously bigger guys are going to have even more trouble. Pac still put him down twice in the second fight (once officially, one unofficially). And he was the first to stop Morales and Barrera. He had power there, but his best asset now, which is his speed, was less effective.
     
  9. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    His losses at flyweight mean nothing, he was a kid.

    Mayweather himself has been less troubled at the higher weights than he was at the lower weights....
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's almost ******ed to penalize the guy for being a 16 yr kid/pro that was malnourished and under trained for the first few years. Let' not consider that he was bringing money any which way he could for his poverty stricken family.
     
  11. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Arguello lost his first fight at 126,Armstrong lost his first fight at 126 should the rest of their accomplishments be put in doubt cause they did well all the way up to Welterweight(in Armstrong's case)after having lost at a lighter weight before?

    The stupidity in this forum never ceases to amaze me.
     
  12. bill poster

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    Pacquiao breaks his opponents down in a similar way to M Hagler, very patiently, doesnt waste too many punches or get too wild. Very demoralising for your opponent.
     
  13. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont believe Marquez was any faster than the drained ODLH at welter.


    I dont think Cotto's any harder to hit cleanly than Barrera Morales or Diaz do you?
     
  14. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Marquez would have been a lot faster than ODLH was at 147.

    No, I don't think Cotto's harder to hit, that's my point.
     
  15. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    what does that have to do with getting knocked out?


    Also, sinsurat, or however you spell his name, was not when pac was 16. Also, he lost to morales. Also, JMM beat him all over the place, but now he walks through WW uppercuts, and avoids drug testing.