The myth that prime Tyson was unbeatable.

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Decent list but i'd also put Liston and Frazier.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    brittard lewis takes aamerican tyson
     
  3. bonbon

    bonbon Member Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  4. heavy_handss

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    :lol: tyson was very similar to ali and young physically and stylistically, what a horrible and partial post, i think that a more realistic fight would have been tyson trying to get inside of foreman and getting pushing back and frustrated, foreman stoping his attack by heavy jabs and uppers, mike would land some fast shots but he never would end the complete combination cause the huge strength of foreman pushing him back and clinching if he was in a moment of problems, tyson did not have the right physical tools (measures of height,reach,style..) to overcome the problems that the style of foreman would offer him
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Yet he had the right tools to handle Liston was very similar?
     
  6. TheOldTimer

    TheOldTimer Active Member Full Member

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    I didn't say they were similar physically or stylistically you did.
    I said they were elusive counter-punchers, Tyson was an aggressive counter-puncher, Ali a defensive one, both were very difficult to land solidly on because of their superior technique, quickness and evasive styles although Tyson's evading of punches is probably even more impressive than Ali because Ali mostly fights in retreat whilst Tyson avoids punishment whilst coming forward constantly. George foreman did not have an evasive style, even at his best he was easy to hit, slow and ponderous and very predictable, not good qualities to possess against Mike Tyson.
     
  7. BrutalForeman

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    Wow....Ok, so if George was so easy to hit in his prime, why didnt Frazier beat him to a pulp? That is the question you should ask yourself, because the fighter Tyson is most compatible to in terms of size and style is Frazier.
     
  8. Savak

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    Wasn't frazier a very slow starter compared to Tyson and only opened up as fight went on from rounds 5 onwards?
     
  9. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    ... the only thing worse than the Tyson haters are the Tyson fanboys.

    Let's put a little perspective here. After all, let’s remember that “invincible” Tyson got knocked out cold by a guy called Douglas, who had one great night and not much more.

    Tyson was undoubtedly a magnificent fighter, but assuming that he would have the upper hand against prime Foreman or Liston is pretty absurd.

    Yeah, sure: a smaller fighter charging ahead against a bigger guy with ATG hitting power … makes perfect sense.
     
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  10. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course it was a myth, nobody is unbeatable and Tyson was beaten several times.
     
  11. heavy_handss

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    No, despite your fantastic imagination, foreman was bigger, much taller, stronger thab liston, he got a much better chin and much greater heart than liston, prime vs prime foreman weighed 217-232 pounds and liston 201- 212. And their styles WERE very different as well, liston was jabbing and was more ortodox, tyson had no problem avoiding this jab with his great move OF head and then qould counter him, tyson could even overpower liston, foreman was open but he was much more aggrresive and tyson wOuld get stopped BEFORE he had chance TO take advantage OF this, foreman was a faster starter than liston, he had more a street fighter. Style like dempsey, they WERE going TO kill you not just knock you out, foremab pushed back the people, liston never did,
    foreman would be like fish in the water withba rivals
    Short and aggrresive
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Please show me fights in Liston's prime he weighed 201 in. Tyson overpowering Liston? Please. Tyson is doing what Foreman couldn't do. :lol: Foreman was not bigger. Liston had bigger biceps, longer reach, bigger chest, Neck, fists, thighs, etc. Of course you forgot to point all of this out.
     
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  13. heavy_handss

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    http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=13411
    did liston weigh 201 pounds in his 20s or not? Is the 20s the physical prime age OF. A boxer or not? ( even at 18 in the amateurs foreman weighed 226-230 and he did cut WEIGHT in his early pro career) Did ever foreman weigh 201 pounds? ¿ Was foreman much taller and heavier than liston or not? Poor old Man, go TO the bed
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Did he ever weigh 201 in his prime? Stfu biased troll
     
  15. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Page, Dokes, and a pre-Weaver Tate could give Mike some serious moments.