The Nevada State Athletic Commission does not test for HGH and EPO

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  1. zangetsu

    zangetsu Getsuga Tenshou Full Member

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    If there's someone to blame, blame the organizations that do these tests.

    Don't blame the fighter. Blame NSAC for their incompetence.


    If NSAC were competent enough, PBF wouldn't resort to requesting USADA to handle testing.
     
  2. PH|LLA

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    In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO, concluded that urinary testing is the only scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO.

    http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources1/Q-and-A/Q-A-EPO-Detection/
     
  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    That's WADA.

    The NSAC does not. And not all EPO is seen in urine test.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    the EPO that you say is not seen in urine tests, is it seen in blood tests? Haven't seen that in any of the info that I've read.
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Travis Tygart said it himself in an interview. Not all EPO is found in urine, most but not all.
     
  6. jomzky

    jomzky in your mind Full Member

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    Then all fighters are suspects for using PEDs, since all these fighters follow the same testing procedures. No one will ever know who's clean and who's not. Based on this, no fighter can ever claim they are clean 'coz they weren't subjected to blood test before.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    I found that interview. The EPO that is not found in urine, according to Tygart, is Micera.
     
  8. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Correct. Count me as an ex fan of his.... The only 1 to blame for this fight not happening is pacquiao, NOT Mayweather, AND BELIEVE ME, I am by no means a Mayweather fan, but the guy is right and fair about what he's asking. As for me, I will never spend 1 cent in any ppv pacquiao is involved from now on.....this guy is a cheater as any other lowlife that does it too.... no more, no less!
     
  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    And the NSAC doesn't test for any of it.
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    but I just read an article on the
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    website that says that Micera can be detected in urine, and has been succesfully in the past, during the Tour de France in 2008.

    I don't know how much credibility this guy, Tygart, really has.

    I think you'll find, without any bias, that the tests that Pac agreed to in the end would be able to detect any PED that Pac could take to enhance his performance against Floyd. Those tests might miss something, but Pac would have to get lucky, which is obviously not a risk he would be willing to take. Its not something he could plan for and be certain that the tests would not detect.


    In any case, if there is such a PED, it has not been said yet. HGH, EPO, Steroids, etc... all those bases are covered with the random tests with a 24 day cutoff date for blood tests.
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Tygart? Credibility?

    He's the chief executive, that oversees all the testing for US athletes...

    Pac asked for the NSAC to do the test.

    NSAC does not test for EPO as far as I know right.
     
  12. PH|LLA

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    Pac agreed to alot more than the standard NSAC tests. NSAC doesn't take blood tests for PED's at all but we all know that Pac agreed to random blood testing no later than 24 days from the fight.

    Like I said all the information points to the fact that Pac's final compromise had all the bases covered.
     
  13. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    that means only 1 thing. Mayweather was on HGH and EPO all this time.
     
  14. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    He originally agreed to let the USADA do it, then he said he wanted the NSAC to do blood test.

    While they may do a blood test for PEDs, I haven't heard of them changing anything for their urine test.

    And where did Pac agree to random up to 24? Never saw him say random up to 24 is okay.
     
  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I don't believe Pac is on anything. His actions are of someone being very fishy.

    So far, he was okay with the testing ,then not.

    He said okay to USADA now wants NSAC.