The Nevada State Athletic Commission does not test for HGH and EPO

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol exactly. The way Pac trains and being a natural athlete, if he wanted to put on mass on HGH he probably could easily reach 160lbs but from the looks of it, he is struggling to keep the weight on.

    I think steroids can definitely be ruled out. If he's on anything it would be PED's that allow him to train like a mad man...as far as I'm aware though, he's had those training habits from day 1.

    I see nothing suspicious about Pac being on drugs. Only bad decisions and bad PR moves, he should have just agreed to the tests and put his stupid pride aside. I got a feeling they will agree to blood tests when the fight is next re-negotiated just to try clear his name.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    a guy who is at 146lbs 5 weeks before a fight definately does sound like a guy who needs a catchweight to fight a WW.

    A WW is probably at 160+ 5 weeks before a fight.
     
  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Quick question.

    Why are you mad at the blood test when Pac agreed to it?
     
  4. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mad, I wish he would have just took the test. I wanted to see the fight.... Both of them acted like bitches and let their egos get in the way..I can see both sides can you??

    I just wonder what the benefits of blood testing is over urine?
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I do. I wish Pac would of told Floyd to **** off from the get go.

    Which would of been best, but Pac agreed, the changed his mind, then wanted this, then that..

    Blood testing according to Conte is needed.

    And now we see that urine only matters when it's tested for. Something the NSAC a year ago, wasn't doing. I haven't been able to find anything saying they do or not test for EPO now.
     
  6. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    2 sides to every coin.

    I'm also a fan of both boxers and I agree with Manny.
    Who the **** is Mayweather to dictate to Manny?
    IMO this whole thing is a big FU from Arum.

    I take it you're drawing your conclusions without watching the vid of Manny talking after the Morales I fight about the testing ****-up and the effect it had on him.
     
  7. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've seen conflicting stories as far as which test is better for PED's.. But, even admitted users and strongly suspected athletes have only been caught a minuscule amount of the time.
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Exactly.

    While that sucks that testing is that weak. Considering how easily Conte and the USADA say it can easily be masked.

    Pac should of said **** off or no fight.

    But he agreed.
     
  9. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Coulda Shoulda wouldas...They win, cause they're both getting paid fighting other guys..We lose cause we'll still pay for both these fights.. Only good thing is we have the 4 best welters facing off and hopefully we'll get the winners facing off in the late summer..
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tygart is again full of ****. Wada has had a test, via URINE, yes that URINE since 2008. Google Riccardo Ricco for the first bum to get caught using Micera.


    Oh dear how did they figure out Micera just months after the drug hit the market?????

    OMFG WTF HOW???

    Roche Labs the maker, yes the maker of MICERA, secretly gave samples to Wada to develop a test.


    Surprise. That was 2008. :lol:
     
  11. K-Man

    K-Man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And the Fairweather groupies still come with their old bull**** lies as if they weren't proven wrong around 33878734 times in the last couple of weeks.

    This is an article of 2005:

    http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/epo.html

    But hey, you can still pull the A-side meth card ...
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are correct, but forget some other pieces of info.

    He said 30 (days). Got caught on the 24/7 doing 24 so switched it to 24. FMJ said let's meet in the middle at 14? Team Pac pulled out of talks. FMJ went public with 24. Arum called FMJ a liar. Then Arum said it was true, 14 was offered. Arum still says talks are over Team Pac is moving on.

    To this day, we still don't know why 14 wasn't good enough?
     
  13. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn't matter if a test exists. What matters is the test that the NSAC actually uses! Existence means nothing when the procedure is not usable or in use.

    Doesn't matter if there is a cure for malaria if you live in Sub-Saharan Africa and there are no hospitals within a reasonable traveling distance.
     
  14. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont either, but from what I can make out, the fight was practically on the verge of being cancelled with Team Pac being extremely pissed with PBF & GBP further accusations through the media. I can see it from Pac's POV on this one, all the while their negotiating, the media is tearing through him because of Floyd, he was pissed.

    Their 24 days was their final offer because GBP tried to make out the 24/7 pac-hatton blood withdrawal was within 14 days and that was their reasoning as to why Pac should take it within 14 days, however team pac proved it was in fact 24 days away from the fight, so they settled for 24 days.

    I can see why they didnt go down any further from their egotistical minds pov. GBP/Mayweather said, "look take the test closer to fight cos we know you took it 14/15 days before the hatton fight". Team Pac came back with "actually its 24 days before the fight, so 24 days it is".

    Its really petty stuff imo.
     
  15. PH|LLA

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    you've got the script wrong.

    Pac started with just the standard tests, no blood tests at all.

    Floyd asked for olympic style blood tests, with random testing until the day of the fight.

    Pac said he would accept 3 scheduled blood tests and unlimited **** tests. One before the press conference, one 30 days out, and one after the fight.

    Then Pac said he would accept that the test between the press conference and the 30 days would be at a random date

    Then Floyd said that Pac had blood taken 14 days before the Hatton fight. So Pac should have his test taken up to 14 days from the PBF fight too.

    Then they went into mediation. Pac said the blood was taken 24 days before the Hatton fight, not 14, so he would accept 24 days.

    Floyd stuck to his guns.

    Pac decided to fight someone else.