The new Ring magazine top ten P4P.

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  1. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    But it was hopkins who beat eastman not JC as eastman as only stayed at MW.
     
  2. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    That may be true, but I can't make my rankings based on what could have happened.

    For all we know, Calzaghe could stop Hopkins in a rematch and vault himself to the #1 position in my rankings.

    On the other hand, Hopkins could be the better man in the rematch.

    We are talking about splitting hairs here and I just feel Hopkins is still the slightly better fighter.
     
  3. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Nice job!!!! :good

    I know that, do you understand my post?

    We aren't talking about B level competition, we are talking about how they have performed vs. the elite in the boxing world.
     
  4. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    I did but when JC won the WBO strap the SMW division was one of the weakest divisions and he beat everybody their.
     
  5. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Im going to just say what every one else is thinking


    1 BLACK man :scaredas: :scaredas: :scaredas:


    must be a conspiracy :D
     
  6. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    I'm not completely discounting resume but in the description that I previously provided on how I view the p4p list, a fighters resume would be trumped by style and substance.

    Again, the way I view the fictional p4p rankings is an top to bottom order of all boxers if they were in the same weight division but retained all of the strengths and advantages that make them who they are at their current weight. Based on this criteria Hatton doesn't make the list and PTP does.

    Now even if I used resume as the main criteria I still would rank PTP currently ahead of Hatton. Like I said PTP was able to beat Margarito at the peak of his career for his belt and Margarito was able to beat Cotto at the peak of his career for his belt. Both of the guys are currently ranked in the top 10 P4P which imo constitutes PTP to make the list.
     
  7. rreed23

    rreed23 aka Gordon Gekko Full Member

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    1. Hopkins
    2. Calzaghe
    3. Hatton
    4. Pac
    5. Williams
    6. Margarito
    7. Cotto
    8. Darchinyan
    9. Marquez
    10. Taylor
     
  8. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Wow, just wow:patsch :patsch
     
  9. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Jesus there are some really bad lists on here
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol: i didn't think of that at all

    Calderon is kind of black....
     
  11. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    PR doesn't count just ask B-hop:lol:
     
  12. thesham01

    thesham01 Undisputed Champion Full Member

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    thats a ****ing joke, pacman below hatton??? williams in 5th??? marquez at 9??????????hopkins 1st????

    i`m not jokin, but this is obviously a joke right?
     
  13. rreed23

    rreed23 aka Gordon Gekko Full Member

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    No joke, Hatton owns Pac, they are identical in size, thus Hatton ranks higher P4P. Marquez top 5? please, the only people who have Marquez top 5 are those who scan other peoples lists and throw him in there for credibility. And yes old man Hopkins is hands down the most skilled and most difficult to beat boxer in the game today.
     
  14. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    that would actually be CALZAGHE:good
     
  15. Adaptation

    Adaptation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rankings not that bad, but JMM shouldnt be second - he did lose to Pacman. Joe should be two, especially because of his win against bernard(and we all saw bernard still packed some good stuff in his last fight).

    Paul Williams beat margarito A LONG time ago. Since that moment, he didn't beat anybody significant(and lost to quintana). If his next win is against someone decent(any belt holder from 147 to 168), then we can put him in there.