The new Ring magazine top ten P4P.

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  1. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he hasnt quite proved that yet and thats why he's not up there
     
  2. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yikes :blood :-(


    you gotta be shitting me...
     
  3. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JoeAverage i presume...with this latino bias bull****...

    Kessler hasnt done **** besides lose to Calzaghe
    The HW division is a ****in joke so The Klit Bros aint getting ****
    Haye hasnt done much neither...he's about as succuessful as PW...

    Cotto has beaten and dominated people that have NEVER been stopped or dominated and handed MANY fighters their first loss

    Judah
    Branco
    Torres (**** the Holt headbutt)
    Corley
    Quintana (prior to PW)
    Sosa
    Malignaggi (broke his ****in face! :yep )
    Maussa
    Mosley (outboxed a slick boxer)

    I mean damn...this resume is pretty ****in good...most of these names dont ring a bell but he not only handed them their first defeat, but seriously ****ed them up...****ED THEM UP! So...yes...Cotto deserves to be there

    Every other fighter you mentioned that doesnt belong there i agree with to some extent
     
  4. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    IMO..

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Joe Calzaghe
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Antonio Margarito
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Miguel Cotto
    10. ?

    Lets see how Paul Williams perform on Saturday. Him and Hatton are currently battling for the 10th spot in my list.
     
  5. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    That's BS mate and you know it. Calderon is "besting" anything available at the weight he can fight.

    If Pac can, Calderon can??? Just remember that Pacquiao is almost 5'7'', Calderon is 5 feet tall! He's naturally small, a midget! He can't just move up and be effective like Pacman.

    And for your information, no, he HASN'T fought at 112 before. But my guess is he will move up, if it's necessary to gain recognition and a bigger payday. Even if it means he won't be as effective as he is at 108.
     
  6. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I AGREE...there is NO WAY PW is not a top ten p4p guy
     
  7. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    u can throw those names out there with anyone..wins that mean anything are

    mosely
    torres
    malignaggi
    judah
    and i would even give him abdullaec over anyone else on that list...he was a gold medal winner and undefeated and cotto broke him

    I think cotto is right around 10 but PW would annihilate that whole list right now
     
  8. pmfan

    pmfan Active Member Full Member

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    BHop beat Wright pretty decisively. Is there any doubt BHop won that fight?
     
  9. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good post
     
  10. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that's not how p4p works, koysta was top3 and stayed at 140. hattons only a midget with short arms, he could probably just about make LW (i admit at a big struggle) and be succesful, but that's not relevant. p4p is if they are the same size, hatton hasn't got the frame to move up in weight.
     
  11. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    picture hatton v williams at 140? hatton v a matchstick, hatton snaps him
     
  12. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    cotto was not a champion in 2 weight classes, he was a belt holder in two classes, and has never beat a division champion or defending belt holder.

    hatton is the champion at 140, and has also won a belt at 147, he has beaten numerous defending belt holders and also the champion at 140.
     
  13. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hatton beats all three of them comfortably
     
  14. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    PTP beat the #6 guy who beat the #8 guy. That imo constitutes him making the list. Hatton imo would lose handlly to everyone on the list who is in his weight vicinity including Pac, Cotto, Margarito, and JMM. Paul "The Punisher" Williams is more deserving. :deal
     
  15. roly

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    hatton beat a top 3 guy in koysta and allthough a bit past it castillo was around #8 when hatton fought him.