The official A Joshua vs W Klitschko prediction thread

Joshua before halfway

 

How are so many going with wlad ud, ignorantly thinking Wlad is the "better boxer" WTF, Aj is light years more talented and if anyone's to win a ud it's Aj vs Wlad wearing a pillow suite with a NFL helmet.

Experience does NOT = talent

 

Fans giving Wlad better chance than the expert's ring is 29-1 in favor of Joshua and espn 12-1. We'll see soon enough

 

What pisses me off is most of these new found Wlad fans are just picking him out of agenda. A lot of you idiots were rooting against Wlad when he was fighting Kim Kardashion Fury but that's none of my business. Typical day on ESB.

 

ALOT of posts on the match up..keep adding to it since...

Klitchko vs Joshua

who should actually win and who can do what in the current time of NOW.

POWER : Both have equal ability to k.o you. Joshua has better combination abiilty, Wlad has faster hand speed per punch. Joshua has heavier power which can break threw your guard more. No one can really say , it doesnt matter really both can k.o each other with one punch.

OFFENSIVE Style : Inside: Joshua

Outside : Klitchko

Edge : Joshua ,the aggressive pressure will almost have it always and i believe Joshua has it.

OFFENSIVE SKILL : Wlads one two and hooking off the jab and the jab itself is elite.Joshua is a just slightly less refined but he has more variety because he can throw fast combos without thinking on the fly. This can only be answered to who ever makes it their fight. Edge : Draw

DEFENSIVE SKILL: Joshua is more susceptible to getting hit,he is aggressive and forces the k.o on you. Wlad defense is basically using the jab and then clinchin when his opponents become to close. Wlad RARLEY gets hit with flush power shots and Joshua is getting better slipping and moving out of range. Edge : Klitchko

SPEED : DRAW (Wlad is not as fast anymore/Joshua is underatted in this area)

FOOTWORK : Wlad can move at range and make it extremely difficult to get at him....Joshua on the other hand likes top stay close and just in reach to counter or jump into his opponents. With Wlads number of fights and ability..... Edge : Wlad but remember hes not as accurate on the fly as Joshua.
CHIN : Not Appliable

RING IQ /Ring Generalship / Experiance / Of course Klitchko WEIGHT : not very important both between 240/250...Wlad will make the right adjusted weight as Joshua.its unrealistic to say who weighs what until weigh ins really,because one fighter can weigh more than the other or vice versa if both switch it up. there is no advantage when both are about 6'6 and 240 plus,its how each use the weight.

Summary

Klitchko : A defense cautionary first set up ,needs the jab to make everything happen without it he loses this fight and if he left hooks off the jab he can k.o Joshua bc he wont see it coming but the left hook is often not thrown enough otherwise you would have seen more Pulev like endings .

Joshua : A go forward aggressive pressure set up , he has the abilities to fight inside or out side and is the better counter puncher who has speed which is going to make him extremely dangerous here .

X FACTORS of what cancels out the other has usually : Wlads major weapon besides the jab is ability to force his opposition to go on the inside bc they simply cant out box him from the outside and that's where he utilises clinching and beats you up there ,either way he wins .

Unfortunatly Joshua is 6'6 240/250 and will hold his own if this happens but unlike anyone hes fought , Joshua can rip power shots there and that's where he does his best work .I believe no matter how experienced Klitchko is he wont avoid having to out fight him on the inside. Joshuas ability to shut down jabs which he has the ability to before its even thrown/slips punches and not be easy fighter to read with the explosive in and out positionings are going to be extemely hard to deal with EDGE : Joshua

FIGHT CONTROL : Who ever can hit with more authority while utilizing footwork will dictate pace ,,Wlad has the edge here and will need it bc if he lets Joshua bull rush him and doesn't let him get comfortable its going to be a short fight bc Joshua isn't easy to hit as most ppl THINK and he can throw fast combinations from heady to body if he gets Wlad on the ropes and hurts him hes going to win . EDGE : Wlad

MENTAL TOUGHNESS : Klitchko knows what its like to survive fights alot more and certainly will be looking to crush his next opponent to show last one was an off night and continues to bring that here,Joshua is hungrier and wants to lay waste to the entire HW division without breaking sweat and thinks he will be on top for as long as hes fighting . Opposite is Wlad who knows limited time is not on his side and his legacy can be re written with this win alone ,he does not want to leave the game on an Loss .

This makes BOTH guys confidence go up a level a win over Wlad will solidify Joshua as the best no question and for Wlad to beat such a young powerful opponent at 40 one will have to rethink his standing as an ATG and in my book puts him over Vitali . Its a TALL order , i think Joshua's train of thought the work effort and style will make it difficult and now hes fighting in front of 90,000 of mainly his home people. EDGE : Joshua

How can Wlad win: Well he needs to want to win first as soon as he steps out of the tunnel and go in there like Joshua stole or killed someone close to him. He NEEDS to do this bc hes not getting into the ring with anyone normal,he has to be smart and looking for the k.o sooner than later an establish control because one Joshua spurt on him and it could spell doom. Can Wlad win ? He needs to stay out of the clinch for prolonged periods and that could mean split second breaks to avoid Joshua killer inside punches. He needs to listen to his corner and have a do or die mentallity.

If he throws alot of one two jabs hes bound to land and be able to keep throwing them at least in thee first few rounds to make Joshua think ,the longer the fight goes Klitchko may settle down and get into rythm or he may tire first?He has to take that chance and fire on all cylinders. Anyone close to Wlad can win ,the question is can he win against a equal puncher who will be harder to control and the only way he really does that if he stops Joshua with the jab and if he has been working his uppercut bc this fight is somewhere going on the inside.And he will have to match some exchanges there to avoid a knock out. Joshua is a stone cold killer who rips vicious uppercuts there and then gets his shovel punches going that are powerful without even winding any punch up.

PREDICTED WINNER : Joshua 70% Chance of defeating Wlad.I don't believe Wlad can survive 12 rounds with Joshua...he needs a knock out. Joshua is way to aggressive and with size will hit Wlad sooner than later,and its not going to be an advantage for a long range fighter the longer this goes,which gives the inside fighter the edge,and Joshua does not rest on the inside he throws killer body and head combinations.Looking on how a fighter improves from 15 to 20 fights is important which why when Wlad fights Joshua we are not getting the Whyte / Breazeale or Molina version... Expect Joshua to be a scary,powerful on point guy no playing around when he steps in the ring like hes never been....

Klitchko HAS to be his best ability to win this and that points to Joshua being favored. One has to think a 6'6 athletic power puncher is going to get the job here against a Wlad that no one knows which Wlad is still able to pull the trigger of punching accurately and timing his punches against a very underated thinking Joshua who is very smart himself. Would i bet Wlad ?..well if i had the extra $$$ i would . Lets be real..Wlad dangerous /smart and hes never lost twice in a row and has motivatiion.

Unless you think he will do somethings i said then i would say yes. He is dedicating to Manny Steward so this COULD play a big deal into how hard he fights. Wlad has obvious the way more number of fights and rounds, Ive never seen anyone defeat a Wlad in 19 fights. Larry Holmes at age 42 defeated Ray Mercer in his 19th fight and gave him his first loss. Will this be history repeating itself? Well Joshua is the most gifted fighter ive seen since Cus's Tyson. If you have the extra money to bet take Wlad...

If you want the safer bet take Joshua. Wlad DOES look to be on point as few myself included are predicting as far as peak form ,but if Joshua smothers that,well Wlad still came in to win and was perhaps more dangerous than ever ,only the fight will show whats what. EVERYTHING i calculated for me says Joshua will win k.o 6th round.

 

AJ's power is a bit overrated, he has poor upper body movement and mostly fights in straight lines.

Wlads layoff will be the x-factor and the only reason hes a 2 to 1 underdog. I like my chances and will back Wlad with some $$$

 

I see Wlad walking Joshua onto a left hook and Joshua being put to sleep

 

Make that 325CST
I'm sorry

 

Too much information/misinformation, too many unanswered questions about both fighters, I can't confidently call the winner so won't commit to a real bet. I do lean Joshua slightly so had a tickle on AJ in rounds 7-9.

 

No worries. I caught it. Great fight! Thanks man.

 

I was wrong, but the fight was great!
Joshua is vulnerable but a very good champion.

 

This is why you cant count out a guy like Wlad...he showed up better than ever .How do i know this? Bc i studied wlad since the 90's and no other wlad would have lasted with the shots he ate and great ring IQ he displayed.What does this fight actually show.well two things Joshua is real ( obviously) and Wlad is much better than anticipated by his detractors ( im not one). i happen to think Wlad showed more pois and skill bc he HAD to....

It actually makes me rethink his standings without a win here bc the fight ( as stated )bc this Wlad could be great against anyone and its not bc he fought Joshua its what he actually did in a REAL fight against such a opponent.

BTW...that Wlad right hand wouldnt kept a horse down...even had my older bro cringe who never even seen Joshua and was rooting for Wlad.

 

That was the FKN best fight I've seen in a while
Cheers

 

@GALVATRON, Wlad was incredible himself tonight, what a great fight. Do you like the idea of a rematch or do you prefer to see Joshua attempt to unify with Wilder or Parker?

ps. thanks for talking me out of betting the cats college fund Also don't forget to drop us your prediction for the Brook/Spence fight.

 

yea sorry about that been crazy busy,which is why i havent posted yet...will tell you im favoring spence but still need to see real footage /puchnes/temperment...etc...little secret thing...nicks/nacks.......thanx!


please know im not nostradomus...but I DO know about combat ,i wont get then all right.


Rematch??no...Wlad vs fury will do...