THE OFFICIAL fight night in pictures Marquez vs PAC III

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  1. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And my verdict is...JMM plants his foot toes down in the Floyd video. Where his toes are while his lead leg is in the air is not the point in question, rather, its when he actually plants that lead foot. Against Pac, what I thought originally was suspect was whenever he "planted" that foot he landed with his heels down/toes up. I'm not saying he did this every time, however, there is a youtube vid out there that documents it where he did the same kind of heels down/toes up motion about 20 times. Again, it's when he plants the foot. Yeah I get your point that when you overextend your leg your toes could point up on its way down, but this the exception rather than the rule. So why shouldn't you question his motives when he's caught doing it 20 times? Such consistency requires a calculated thought process wouldn't ya think? In the Floyd video...unless I'm on crack, he's landing toes down almost everytime. Did JMM change his basic fundamentals just for the Pac fight?

    ...but hey to be fair Imma rewatch that vid real quick.
     
  2. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't believe *******s stoop down to this level and accuse jmm of cheating when Freddy and pac have all dissmissed that. It's like you guys are trying to hold on to any excuse as to why pac lost.
     
  3. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Piece of advice....don't be a sheep. Next time you see something fishy feel free to question it. Don't worry we live in a democracy, you won't be sent to some Siberian labor camp.
     
  4. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Has pacquiao ever loss? OKAY!

    HAS PACQUIAO EVER BEEN KNOCKED DOWN?!? OKAY!

    HAS PACQUIAO EVER BEEN KNOCKED OUT?!? OKAY!

    HAS PACQUIAO EVER BEEN DOMINATED?!?!? OKAY!

    WHO HOLDS THE NUMBERS IN LARGEST PPV EVENTS AND GATE REVENUE?!?!? OKAY!

    WHAT HAPPENED IN PACQUIAO'S LAST FIGHT?!?! OKAY!

    JMM give that crude "boxer" pacquiao lesson of a lifetime.
     
  5. bballchump11

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    All the times in the first round he moved his foot forward and landed with the heel first and toes in the air
     
  6. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ironic you say that.

    You guys say the judges can't be corrupt

    Compubox is accurate in pacs fight

    Bob arum is honest man and did not really tell jmm " its just buisness "

    Pacs team talked **** about angel but when jmm held a press conference to state he's clean and willing to test pacs team quickly changed subject.

    *******s have no intentions on questioning the statements above because it benefits team pac . Of all boxers its pacs team who has been dysfunctional with ariza turning on bob, Freddy having no real answer as to why pac lost. And pacs team not wanting to test. Take your own advice and question your hero. He's only human like you and I.
     
  7. PaoloMirani

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    Well I rewatched it and I'm not exactly sure what you were trying to prove. The couple of times he landed with his toes up it was only for a fraction of a second, meaning his momentum was still toes down, meaning that it's still a natural movement. That's not the case in the Pac examples. But Imma drop this issue as it really had no bearing in the fight and it seems to be a sensitive subject for you JMM fans.

    All I gotta say is, it still looks suspect to me but much props for the crafty ol veteran. Ol Hop musta given him tips while he was at Goldenboy.
     
  8. PaoloMirani

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    Yes I seen some of those, but his momentum shifted to his toes within a fraction. Not the same thing against Pac where he held his toes up and was planting his weight on his heels. But dude give it up, you got yor JMM goggles on and you prolly think the same about me with Pac.
     
  9. AnotherFan

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    Pac was able to beat JMM to the punch a tad to ofter for these endless claim of robbery to make sense.
     
  10. bballchump11

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    what I have realized/proved is that this is a natural thing for Juan and just muscle memory. He was keeping a farther distance from Pac than he was Floyd, so his leg was in the air for a shorter period of time.
    Floyd was confident with his defense up close and trying to bait Juan and Juan was trying to be the aggressor vs Floyd
     
  11. PaoloMirani

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    Yes buddy its ok to question all of the 'forementioned. But its also ok to question why you people would conveniently question all the 'forementioned I mean what are trhe chances? So for this fight, and this fight alone....compubox is unreliable, judges are corrupt, and JMM's face is more sensitive, or punches you didnt see in real time but you see in slomo shouldnt count. But whatever dude, cool. At the end of the day your entitled to your opinion. You think the judges scorecards were questionable? Fine, I must assume you had JMM winning decisively. The concensus disagrees, it was a close fight and the judge's scorecards reflects it.
     
  12. texboxing00

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    Look at my post history, I predicted a 8th round tko for pac to stop jmm. The only reason why I quoted you because you keep bringing up the foot stomping wich by pacs team was dismissed and unlike jmm pac still has a lot of questions to be answerd. I scored it 115-113 for jmm giving pac all the close rounds. I also mentioned before I was impressed with pacs foot work . But in my opinion pacs game plan to try and out box the master boxer was a failure. He won on offical records and maybe deep down inside u do feel pac did win but fact remains most people feel jmm won and after beating the monster that pac is its a shame jmm didn't get his hand raised. Why did Freddy tell him he needs a knock out? Why did arum tell jmm its business ? Why? Answer me those questions. Why did pac.look bummed after the last bell. Why was pacs corner.yelling at pac in-between.rounds?
     
  13. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No hatman in this fight boy!

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  14. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you *****? OKAY!!!
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  15. Fighting Pride

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    A couple more right hook counters from Pac. This time 3rd round.

    Marquez was winning a close round, Pac lands two right counters in the final 10 secs, and probably steals the round. First one made Marquez do the electric boogaloo


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