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Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CST80, Nov 4, 2014.


  1. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Agreed; very odd analogy. What dog owner doesn't fawn over and adore their dog? I still miss my departed dogs madly. Obviously I don't mean conversely.....as if you should disrespect women relative to loving your dog--whatever their social status-- .oh why am I bothering...you know what I mean? Love your dog and treat people with class. politeness and decency, unless given reason to do otherwise. Both, not coincidentally, go together.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Sure, I'm not going to disagree there, he deserves to get criticized, it wasn't right at all, but its far from the worse thing someone has done. I've seen Valero and Monzon get less hate for what they did, and they're straight up pieces of ****. People are overreacting to this because they just don't personally like Saunders, same with Wilder and Broner, whose silly antics get blown out of proportion all the time.
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    C'mon bro lol Monzon hasn't been relevant in how many years? I agree what Valero has done gets way overlooked, it's kinda odd how he's celebrated. Let's just stick to the topic, Wilder has never done anything remotely close to what Saunder just did. Broner probably has and he deserves every bit of criticism. @CST80
     
  4. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Yep; I'm assuming a lot of people were unsettled and baffled by that. As a figure of speech it just doesn't work.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Actually Wilder got accused of beating up a prostitute, but aside from that, silly crap he posts on FB or Instagram gets attacked on here like he's murdered someone, I'm actually defending Wilder and Broner here, I think they both get too much ****.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Was there actual proof? If there is he deserves to be criticized. There's nothing Wilder has done on FB/Instagram that's even remotely close to this bro. Let's be real. Broner is a moron, I used to like him but he deserves criticism just like Saunders.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah he was charged I think, but the details were murky, like supposedly he choked her because she tried to screw him over or something, I didn't retain it well, let someone else who hates Wilder fill in the details. You're right, Broner is an ass, and Saunders is an ass. But let's keep it in perspective, they're just asses, not hardened criminals.
     
  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well if it was factually proven he deserves to be criticized. But we know women bull**** a lot. I just want to see the same people who would say **** like **** Broner I want him to lose because he acts like a total clown and embarrassment say the same **** about BJS. But to no one's surprised they're nowhere to be seen.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah, I got it, but at least I try to be consistent. I hate how people seem to not be able to process degrees, variants and levels to all this ****, they exist because we need them to make distinctions between things, without them, our entire rule of law collapses, moral relativism reigns and our entire society falls apart. Rape is rape, patting a girl on the butt is patting a girl on the butt, but are wrong, but one exists on one end of the spectrum, the other one is on the extreme other end. In the grand scheme of things, this what Saunders did was wrong, but its ultimately small fries. Most things that happen in our society, the moral outrage far outweighs the actual offense.
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If they were going to arrest him, he'd be arrested. It seems like the BBBoC wasn't letting him off the hook like the authorities. Do British athletes sign some sort of contract for code of conduct? I don't get it cuz when Fluid punches a female NSAC doesn't do jack.
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree you stayed consistent since i haven't really seen you go at Broner throughout these years. I mean you probably have since 99% of this forum has criticized him at some point but not to a noticeable extent.

    I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying. But for fighters like Stevenson or Khurtidzde I think it's a completely different situation. We have to look at it with a different lens. Yes what they did was shitty, but Stevenson was 21, he was raised in the ghetto and had no guidance in life. That was half a life ago, he's clearly not the same man and reformed. I don't think it's crazy to forgive someone and let **** go. He wasn't some millionaire like BJS. As for Khurtidze, do you really believe he was doing it for fun? No, he was most likely forced into that lifestyle due to not being able to pay the bills and couldn't get out. It's not easy to just get out. I doubt he wanted to continue doing it once his boxing career became more successful. In the overall scheme was what Stevenson or Khurtidze(I know I can't spell his name lol), did far worse? Yeah, forsure. But we need to let go of what Stevenson did since it was 20 ****ing years ago. 20 years from now if BJS has clearly matured I'm not going to bring this tape up and 100s of more pranks he pulled and hold it over his head.

    BJS is a 30 year old man-child humiliating a drug addict and recording her for entertainment. Again if he was 18-23, I'd say he's just a kid, but the man is 30.
     
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  12. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    You and I are probably never going to agree on Stevenson, or on Khurtsidze, but I get what you're saying. Fair enough.:lol:
     
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  13. red cobra

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    Saunders is a punk...despite the fact that i like his boxing style. He's just a miserable dlck head...a punk.
     
  14. red cobra

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    I must have missed that one...he did that??? What's his problem...is he a mental case?
     
  15. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Here it is.

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    And some on here will pull the “It’s her word against his card” but there was a radio show where Wilder described how he likes to have sex. “Choking, spitting in their face and rough stuff.”
     
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