***The Official Golota Express! Bowe-Golota II - 19 years ago today***

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  1. kaptnK

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  2. Hoax976

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    Perhaps Rumsfeld is busy writing the script to a movie based on the life of Andrew Golota.

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  3. Hoax976

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    "The vision of Golota raising his hand in victory after having fought half the fight with one eye is a storybook ending."

    Spot on Rums. Doesn't even matter to me anymore if he ever officially wins one of the main belts. He made everyone (most importantly himself) extremely proud. He has been completely vindicated and redeemed.

    "I hope nobody will ever call me a quitter again."-Andrew Golota
     
  4. DamonD

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    Even the 'Foul Pole' nickname is getting outdated.
    How many point deductions has he had recently?

    A point off for hitting after the break vs Ruiz in 2004 (Mollo should've got one of those).
    A point off for a low blow vs Grant in 1999 (which was a dubious 'make good' call).

    ...and that's about it.

    The fouls against Bowe have fallen into legend, but since then (although he's still had the short-circuits and quit jobs) he's been far from the dirtiest player in town.
     
  5. JETSKI

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    I hear what you are saying, but do you think thats something AG really wants to do? Remember, he just didn't walk in the gym a week ago, & say I wanna fight Bates, McBride & Mollo. Comeon, hurry up, I wanna get this done now! It doesn't happen that way. This has been a long, hard road of a comeback & I don't see why he should (or would want to) hang 'em up. Theres guys out there with belts that Andrzej can beat, he knows that, he's feeling good & having fun, he just proved he's not gonna get blown out, can still box, is showing tremendous aggression & has the stamina to go the distance.

    Like the commerical says:

    JUST DO IT!!! :happy
     
  6. Rumsfeld

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    That's it! After all the failure, after all the disappointments we Golota fans have endured, after all the hope he inspired only to fail and fall short....we finally have closure!

    If Golota never fights again, it doesn't matter. Even winning a championship isn't as important as it once was.

    He finally gave him and his fans a moment to be proud!

    And for me, that's enough. Sure, it was not against world class opposition, but at the same time, he overcame the odds and outworked and out-hustled a younger foe with a great punch. It's too bad Golota never had this mental capacity back when he had the tools to compete at the top level, but better late than never.

    Golota's career is a strange study, for if you combined his younger self (with all the physical tools in the world) with his current self (who has finally gotten his mental faculties together), you have one hell of a formidable fighter.

    Seriously, is there any better way for him to hang'em up? Winning a championship would be great, but I doubt Golota could do much better than he did, and I fear he is too slow to compete against anyone at the top level (except Maskaev).

    I never thought the day would come where I'd say this, but I wish Golota would call it quits. At 40, he proved all he needs to prove to overcome the Tyson debacle, and that in itself made his comeback worthwhile.

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  7. Rumsfeld

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    Actually, it was Ruiz who lost a point in that fight, not Golota.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

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    Well, if he fights on, I will obviously continue to pull for him.

    His best chance at winning a belt would be Maskaev, but he is going to lose to Peter, and Peter poses a lot of problems for this version of Golota. Ibragimov is going to lose against Wlad, and right now, Wlad would crush Golota....prime for prime is a different story, but this Golota cannot compete against Wlad.

    That leaves Chagaev, whom I believe Golota could be competitive against. The 2004 version of Golota would beat Chagaev, and of course, the 1999 and 1996 versions of Golota would probably obliterate him. Even still, this version could probably remain competitive and squeak out a decision, but again...

    This fight acted as a moment of closure as far as I'm concerned. It made the whole crazy journey worthwhile.

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  9. DamonD

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    Then Golota hasn't had a single point deducted for over eight years, and a dubious one at that. And he's meant to be a dirty fighter?
     
  10. JETSKI

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    He's not anymore. Thats water under the bridge. Jerks in the media just don't know when to quit. They love beating a dead horse.
     
  11. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    I say no way. Golota is looking better and better. Not only is he 40 but he's huge. Of course he's not going to look fast. Andrew made Mollo look like he has no business boxing. I say he should fight Maskaev and Chagaev and school them all. Hopefully he'll pick up a belt and maybe even unify!
     
  12. DamonD

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    Sounds very optimistic...but then this is the Golota Express!
     
  13. Rumsfeld

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    Well, believe me, seeing Golota win a title would be great.

    But I think you guys are too quick to dismiss his gross lack of speed. A quick boxer who doesn't stand in punching range is going to beat Golota to the punch everytime.

    Maskaev is already fighting Peter. If Maskaev beats Peter, somehow (which I don't think will happen) then Maskaev would be the PERFECT match-up for Golota at this stage.

    A bout against Chagaev, I am confident Golota would have won just a few short years ago, but his rapid delcine in speed would make things very difficult against a fast fighter with skills.

    Either way, Golota probably isn't hanging them up anytime soon, and I'm not about to abandon this express.
     
  14. JETSKI

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    At the moment, I'm riding a very positive wave. With the GIANTS getting to the Superbowl, I think they stand a very good shot at beating the Pats. And you Jets fans should love that idea. Just like Golota stands a very good chance to steal a title. It would be nice to see Oleg get rid of Peter, but I feel Golota could still make this guy (Sam) look like the chump he is. AG would beat Maskaev, unless he lands that miracle right hand like he did against Rahman, & even if he did, AG would prob just eat it like ice cream. And I can see Golota rolling over Chagaev, pressuring & outworking him. Golota is looking very aggressive, which really wasn't his style. He's pressing the issue more & wants to hurt people.

    I like that...:!:
     
  15. Rumsfeld

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    Jets, just keep things in perspective....Mollo was a dangerous style match-up for Golota, but he's hardly a world beater. I'm not trying to rain on any parades, for that was Golota's bravest performance ever, and we should all be proud of him.

    I'm just saying....Mike Mollo is what he is. He did, after all, lose to Touch of ****.

    As far as the Giants go, I hope they destroy the Pats!

    GO BIG BLUE!!

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