The official Gypsy King vs. Bronze Bomber brouhaha repository

The argument isn't whether the Lineal is legitimate, the argument is whether someone who retired from the sport and didn't fight for over 2 years can claim to be lineal champion.

If so then i will assume you believe Floyd Mayweather is still the lineal champion at 147lbs. It was never broken in 2008 when he retired and considering he fought last year still hasnt been broken. In fact if McGregor would of won he would of been the lineal 147 champion. Sounds pretty ridiculous no?

The lineage has to be broken when the champion is not fighting.

 

Lennox Lewis still the HW Lineal champion

 

Terms of revenue the only fights that eclipse this is AJ vs Wilder, maybe Canelo vs Golovkin, AJ vs Whyte and that’s about it really.

 

Don't flatter yourself kid.

You evidently crave respect but when your opinions are half arsed you aren't getting any.

 

I’m a wilder fan but even I can’t contend that AJ has the best resume in the division. Only thing is I wanna see the two get it on, if Wilder beats Fury he will have two good names, then maybe go for Whyte then AJ if AJ doesn’t want the fight in April.

 

lol my oh my, what an innocent child you are! You have Nooooo clue what is going on?

This my friend is called "Business" it's how clever people ochestrate a series of actions that have people like you buying into the hype and giving them money.

Wilder and Fury are bestest buddies behind closed doors right now, they are in serious business and money speaks volumes on how you conduct yourself. They both gonna hype this fight up by helping each other and make a TON of cash together, and laugh to the bank at hearn and matchroom.

Evidence:

At the Pianeta weigh in Wilder shakes hands with Fury dad and then seconds later Fury dad goes ballisatic acting all big lmao - all part of the show.

After the fight, Tyson is smiling with Wilder, hugging, touching... then all of sudden calls him a bum gets in Wilders face nose to nose... at this point Wilder would have pushed a man back and socked him in the mouth... you don't do that to an Alabama black man. But wilder smiles the awkard exchange off even when Tyson tries to kiss him because of the MONEY INVOLVED. You'd be suprised what you let slide when millions are on the table, you would let a man kiss you on the lips.

So yeah, this is all hype, all drame, not very good acting, but interesting match up.

The only thing that is real is each fighter, Wilder and Tyson, are banking on themselves winning the fight to move on to Joshua for bigger money.

 

The OP's argument might have some validity if Fury vacated the belts because of injury, personal issues or non drug related criminal convictions but Fury vacated because he's a PED cheat who got caught by an official test so his win over Wlad is tainted, would he have won that fight if he wasn't on the juice ?? Personally I believe Tyson would have beaten Wlad juice or no juice but that's irrelevant, what is relevant is he was on the stuff.

 

Joshua is No. 1 irrespective of the Wilder/Fury outcome, and most reasonable minds understand that.

 

Even if it is all an act if i were a world champion i wouldnt want give somebody else my belt to parade around with claiming hes guna take it off me next. Thats 1 part of the act i wouldnt play along with, **** him, he wants my belt he can touch it if he wins it. That would actually make for better sales in itself. These guys and their promoters and 67 managers are all so very desperate to get one over on Hearn, DAZN and Joshua by talking this up like its guna be huge. Its not guna be huge. Joshua Povetkin will be huge as per usual.

Wilder Fury is a good interesting and exciting fight. But as an excercise to belittle Hearn and Joshua its not going do it. I wouldnt even be surprised if Fury pulls out of the fight the day after Joshua Povetkin. But not before.

 

Well you can't really talk until you've been offered 15 million pounds to play along, I bet your ass that you will hand over that belt and your pride would go out the window. For 15 million everyone would do just about anything, so please don't act like you wouldn't.

 

You are right, Well i can think of one guy who wouldnt do something for 15 million. But i doubt that 15 million would be out the window based on Fury parading around with the belt or not doing it.

 

Yeah but part of the game is to play along and do everything to increase the chances of success and income to get that 15 million figure. So saying no to your business partner just creates friction lol besides handing over a belt for a parade is nothing really... the action will happen in the ring that's all that matters.

Tyson and Wilder are both so confident in themselves they couldn't possibly say or do anything to each other to change the outcome or get in each others head, both big guys, bot got reputations for a reason. Just who wins on fight night. And they both relaxed anyway as they are promoting together, and teaming up against matchroom boxing, so it's all love and fun and games till fight day.

 

Am I the only one wondering what the agreed terms are for the Fury v Wilder fight?

Fury stated that he will only negotiate with fair people, so do we think hes getting a 50/50 split?

Both have said the fight is the biggest that can be made, so in that case do we think that both fighters will get a share of a $100m pot?

Wilder & Finkle were not happy with the rematch clause for the AJ fight, so do we think that there is a rematch either way? (Stops an AJ fight in april for either)

Also Frank Warren has just said that the date/venue will be confirmed in the next 10 days. How come there was no issue signing this fight with no date/venue yet both called out Hearn for doing the same?

I guess these are unanswered questions but I am intrigued to know the details of this fight. Maybe the reason the negotiations were so smooth was because these details were not aired out for the public. But I think there are some inconsitencies in what both camps have said in relation to a fight with AJ that dont seem to apply to a fight with eachother.

 

I cant see it being anywhere near a 100 mil pot, I actually thought it be 60/40 for Wilder as hes Champ. If hes giving Fury 50% he must think its the easiest fight of his career. The biggest fight that can be made is Fury v Joshua imo, even Joshua taking the lions share, Fury would still be getting much much more than fighting Wilder at 50/50. I find it all weird, like they might be using each other to promote themselves and the fight will fall through at the last minute

 

Has this 15 Million even been confirmed? I saw an interview where it was stated both sides had signed confidenciality clauses. Ive seen Hearn guessing he could get 15 million but he is not privvy to their details.