The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

Soo i got merged into this thread. The other ban bet was not for life.
:think Not gonna make a new account just because a fighter looses

 

you've also got to take into consideration that mayweather's opponents tend to throw 20% less on average against him.... he knows how to slow down your pace.... bernard hopkins the other guy that has that effect on his opponents....

 

Well, Pacquiao isn't like other opponents. Mayweather loves to force his opponents to fight at a faster pace, missing shots to where they're fatigued at the end. It's a smart gameplan, and causes their thrown/landed % to plummet; however, Pacquiao fights at a faster pace anyways and has better stamina than Floyd himself, so I don't think the drop will be as signifcant.

Most opponents tire when they miss. Missing is a part of Pacquiao's style. He won't. I just haven't seen any evidence to prove that what Mayweather does to force his opponent's throwing % to drop will work against a highly experienced, elite, fast-footed pacquiao.

Also, if Pacquiao throws 20% less than his average. Let's say past three fights (674), he'd still be throwing over 500 punches.

 

Me too. My thread was better. Who ever merged this thread, I will find you.

 

I see him being forced to reset a lot. It always happens when he lunges in and gets timed either immediately or during one of his flurries. I don't know, I just think Manny is very predictable and I don't expect Floyd to have problems timing him with accurate counterpunches.

Manny might get to 500 if the fight goes the distance, maybe even a little higher. He's not going to be throwing 700 or 800 punches like he might have in a few of his previous fights, he's taking on a master boxer/counterpuncher who's naturally larger than him and carries almost a half a foot reach advantage.

 

The bolded part is absolutely incorrect. He makes them fight at whatever pace he CHOOSES to. He's almost always the one dictating the terms of pace, hence the reason he's considered one of the greatest ring generals of all time.

As far as the underlined part, Mayweather does this little thing called counterpunching. He's actually pretty good at it. In fact, some say he might be one of the greatest at it. Did you know that happens to be Pacman's most glaring issue?? That he's very much susceptible to accurate counterpunches because he leaves himself WIDE open a good amount of time when he goes on the offensive. This will be the MAJOR reason why Pacman's punch output will be low, as are most come forward fighters who fight Floyd.

Counterpunches would normally slow down Manny. Now counterpunches coming from a naturally larger man who happens to be elite at that specific trait? That spells diaster.

 

obviously.....

Mayweather will throw less but land more

 

over 500...

 

Over 500 (not by a lot) with a ton of missing and hitting air.

 

Yeah, and majority of the time he forces a fast pace to tire opponents. It's smart. He'll probably want to slow Pac down since tiring him out won't work.

HOWEVER, Pacquiao is a ring general just as much as Mayweather. He forces a very, very fast pace on his opponents and has just as much experience, if not more, than Mayweather when it comes to forcing a pace. I say this because he has more fights and fighting an incredibly fast pace has always been his gameplan as long as I can remember.

Whoever is able to force the pace wins IMO, but it won't be easy for either of them simply because they're both elite and ATGs in doing it. However, I always feel it's easier to force a faster pace than it is to slow it down. For this fight, the pace could change round by round.

On counter punching, you say it's his biggest problem but it's not counter punching per say that is his biggest problem...because the ONLY time counter punching has caused him problems is when the opponent counters through trading with Pacquiao and also hits hard.

He's never lost a decision through counter punching. He's only lost by KO, and very few. And the only time counter punching actually caused him to lose was once in the past 10 years (2012 KO).

Mayweather is the best counterpuncher but I'm not one to believe he has the power or will to throw while Pacquiao is throwing. Sure, he could, but he hasn't before which is why I'm inclined to believe he won't do it in this fight.

You say counterpunchers slow down Manny but I disagree because against Marquez, he has still always fought at a very intense/fast pace and throws an avg of 600+.

Well, what if Mayweather perfectly times him? Makes Pacquiao become patient? Just as I don't usually see Mayweather countering in between fast flurries, I don't see Pacquiao becoming patient. It just doesn't usually happen. He didn't respect Cotto, Margarito, Rios, Marquez, or Mosley's punch. So, I don't think he'll respect Floyd's. And he kept coming even when those fighters engaged with him and landed some good bombs. Mayweather probably won't.




Counter punching Pacquiao has only been a problem if you can KO him. I don't think it's as big as a problem as people make it out to be.

 

Definitely over.

 

I was just watching some old fights, and I remember watching him cheap shot Gatti.

Even in his greatest display, he had to fight unfair.



He'll do anything to win.

Dude truly sold his soul to the devil.

God wins in the end.

God already humbled Pacquaio. The devil had a grip on Pacquaio, but God put that to a stop with one roided up right hand.

Now it's time for Mayweather to take one hell of a beating.

Dude needs to be humbled.

That's what Pacquaio says when he said it was good for boxing. It's good for humanity. Floyd is a bad role model. Period.

No matter what happens, one day, years from now, he'll look back and he'll think, "Man, what was I thinking."

Nobody can escape death, nor will he grow old without acquiring wisdom, and wisdom is often accompanied with pain.

We'll see...

 

What an utterly pointless post lol.

 

What a gay thread.

"Pac was humbled by a roided up right hand"

ROFL