The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Mar 20, 2013.


  1. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bad against someone with decent speed. Ortiz + Judah showed this. High guard is much, much better and he uses it. I just wonder how difficult it'll be since Pacquiao will be moving all over the place, throwing at weird angles, and fast. His vision is already reduced behind the high gaurd and a lot of his reactional reflexes are based off his vision.
     
  2. jmarlow

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    Pacquiao looked good cutting the ring off against algieri, and Pacquiao has faster feet then Mayweather so will have no problems getting in and out of range.

    and he is smarter fighter since the Marquez fight. As i said Mayweather is in trouble. :hi:
     
  3. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I hear that the Michigan defense or "shoulder roll - lol" can't be used against a southpaw one more time....... LOL You guys got to be kidding me with this BS. If you honestly believe that, you're in for a rude awakening in 1 week.

    Yea, every boxer who has employed the Michigan defense in the entire history of boxing, hasn't been able to use that defense against a southpaw. It just "doesn't work against a southpaw." Give me a F'ing break...........

    It's not even worth going into over a forum. It's just so ridiculous. People talking and have zero clue. I haven't even boxed that much in my life, but F man I've tried it as a kid at least and watched it 30 years, it's clear these people have never done it and don't know jack.

    Floyd is going to use a variety of "defenses." He'll show him the roll, he'll go to a high guard, he'll change elevation, angles, use his lead hand to obstruct in a variety of ways, he'll clinch, he'll elbow block, he'll move the head, move his feet to control range.... My god you guys hate this man so much you're blind.

    *drops mic*
     
  4. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd is multi dimensional. He beats PAC both on the inside and outside. Never mind the shoulder roll -- he will use lots of jabs, right hands, hooks and uppercuts. Now what about Pacs chin??? He already has a major crack in it. Call that a concussion. The head can only take so many of those.
     
  5. DoubleM

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    he didnt cut the ring off vs algeri, he was following him around..too bnad algeri is c class and not a counter puncher.
     
  6. jmarlow

    jmarlow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes he did cut the ring off against Algieri, go and rewatch the fight
     
  7. Beast-Mode

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    WRONG! His main strength is his adaptability. How no matter how his opponent comes at him, Floyd figures what he's doing and tweaks his style accordingly. And that is why midway through so many of his fights his opponents have that "deer in the headlight" look while Floyd's in that " come at me bro" mode.
     
  8. jmarlow

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    yet it takes him 4 or 5 rounds to adapt to slow flat footed fighter, it will take him at least double that to adapt to Pacquiao, but by then it will be too late for him.
     
  9. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He definitely can use the shoulder roll, it's just tough to use against a SP. It requires a lot more thinking because of that angle that allows the left hand to stretch over and hit. I think he'll show him the roll as bait in setting up an attack, but if he actually is becoming defensive out of reaction to being hit, it won't be the shoulder roll that he uses.
     
  10. Beast-Mode

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    Just because you say it takes him 4 or 5 rds to adapt to his opponent doesn't mean that loses every single one of those rds. Vast majority of the time those early rds are split evenly. So what else you got?
     
  11. jmarlow

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    yeah against slow flat footed fighters, but he is fighting Manny Pacquiao on May 2nd, as Algieri said no matter how hard you train you simply cannot prepare for the angles that Pacquiao uses. :hi:
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF has no problems with southpaws it's a myth. He can still use it in certain situations though and still can be effective with it.
     
  13. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember a sparring partner was talking about sparring floyd and he said whenever he fought orthodox, he couldn't land a thing. But, when he switched southpaw, he was able to hit Floyd more and got a lot more comfortable. Just an interesting piece of talk. I mean, Sr. himself told Arum never to put his son in a ring with a southpaw and there's been very, very few in his entire career. So, maybe there is something going on there.
     
  14. jmarlow

    jmarlow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the last fast soutpaw he fought dropped him, Pacquiao has even more weapons then Judah did, and Mayweather hasnt had to deal with speed for 9 years and is now 38 years old and slowing down, we will see on May 2nd if its a myth.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Algieri is a nobody PBF is light years better and more complete than him. Algieri has **** defense just uses alot of movement with no real purpose, he also didn't have the experience or ring IQ of PBF. I would never use Chris Algieri in my argument to make a case for Pac period.