The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Mar 20, 2013.


  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I'm starting to get it now, Pacquaio and his fan's didn't actually realise they were getting into a boxing match... that's why they thought they had a chance.
     
  2. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why give up? if indeed slow mo shows Pac landing more, then this definitely warrants discussion about why judges/commenattors see things that actually didn't happen. The thing is, punches are thrown in bunches and it happens in a blink of an eye, judges don't have the eagle vision of confirming if punches land or not. This is why sometimes the boxer who throws more punches gets more points. Granted, Maidana threw many more than Floyd and didn't win but he got a MD in fight 1 by virtue of throwing so many punches. The human eye is not a computer and simply cannot determine accurate punch stats unless carefully reviewed in slow motion, post-fight.

    Floyd is a master illusionist, he makes it appear like he dominated when he didn't. Why is that? It's several things - 1. He controls the fight with his defense, dictating what opponents do 2. He makes opponents miss, making it look like he's winning simply by making opponents look inadequate 3. He is accurate but not necessarily landing cleanly. Floyd's punches seem to get closer to target vs punches thrown at him. During the pac fight, Floyd seemed to get punch stats without actually landing but being close to landing. Meanwhile, Pac was regularly missing badly. Point is, Floyd gets points when he misses as he's good at keeping punches close to target 4. Jab. He gets away with too many taps when per boxing rules, a tap shouldn't be recognized as a punch 5. He is Floyd Mayweather and undefeated. I'm sorry but all of you must be re****ed to not admit that he has it easier for being Floyd. If he were a nobody, he wouldn't win some rounds that he wins today. Floyd is the Jordan of boxing and everything he does will be overhyped by commentators. Additionally, judges will be very hesitant to score any round against him unless opponents CLEARLY wins them. Imagine if these 3 judges would've given Floyd his first loss vs Pac? When so many rounds were so close? This would've left a bad taste in many people's mouths 'wow, he lost for first time like this? what did Pac do?' So, as a Pac fan, i don't think Pac deserved to win, even if careful slow mo ****ysis shows he actually did outland Floyd. If he did, it was just barely and not enough to be awarded such a big win and award Floyd first loss. Pacquiao definitely should've done more to win...
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    It's not bias because the fans and other observers saw the same thing. It's not Floyd causing illusions, how does pretending to hit his opponent benefit him? Please enlighten me.
     
  4. counterstrike

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    You are half right I reckon. It's not so much conscious bias as it is subconscious, as the fight looked like a Floyd fight for the most part if you disregard punches that actually land by either fighter (which was very hard to tell in real time).

    The answer to your question is quite obvious. To score points in the eyes of the judges.
     
  5. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yet you ignore the many people out there conducting careful reviews of the fight, including a panel from boxingnews24. There are MANY claiming a careful post fight ****ysis shows something different than what scores were.
     
  6. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Like is said and ill say again. Flo/mos have nothing to brag about after that pathetic display by both fighters.
     
  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Why pretend to hit your opponent when you can actually hit them?
     
  8. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    I agree with much of this. Remove Floyd from this fight, and insert Bradley. Let it play out the exact same way, and Pacquiao would have gotten a comfortable decision. It definitely makes a difference who is in the ring. How Floyd is handled by judges and refs in the ring, is like the Jordan rules, when Mike played for the Bulls.
     
  9. Brandish

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    nothing to brag about lmao floyd just beat the p4p#2 fighter in he world and the WBO welterweight champion:deal

    his fans have every reason to brag about this victory:deal

    floyd just knocked off the so-called fighter of the decade 118-110:deal

    made him scared and tentative to fight his fight.. this victory is one for the ages and makes floyd the undisputed fighter of his generation.
     
  10. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You actually don't need to go as far as Duran since we have Bradley nowadays who rolls quite excellently with punches.
    My point is, It's not just a case of rolling with the punches, it's a case of rolling with the punches AND completely nullifying its effects in the eyes of the judges.
    I was fooled. Many times. Lots of Floyd's dodges were clear hits from Pac. Some even hard. But did we see that? No. Did the judges see that? Again, no.
    That is the beauty in it, IMO.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :roll: He's a true klompton aficionado with his own head about 6.5 meters up his own ass.

    His sweeping dismissal of modern boxing makes for hardly a fit arbiter of anything to do with modern boxing - and even in terms of classic boxing his area of specialty is certainly not technical analysis.
     
  12. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    seriously? what is your definition of the word FIGHT?
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The first three, Manny accomplished nothing. You watch them again.



    Nobody on earth gave Pacquiao the 1st, that includes all of his fans. Hell, that includes Jinkee, Buboy, and Blow-Blow Brother Bobby.



    Most people gave Mayweather the 2nd. A few thought it was close enough to go either way. Scantly anybody gave it to Pacquiao - fringe opinion.




    A slight majority gave it to Mayweather. Close but clear round.




    The only people who didn't have it 30-27 Mayweather after three are pretty much known ardent Mayweather haters and/or Pacquiao supporters. :conf

    Yes, many of those who did have that score are known Mayweather fanatics, but just as many are impartial and respected posters with no dog in the race.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    "Do what needs to be done to win/vanquish your enemy by whatever the contextual definition of winning may be". That has always been the definition of the word, in any context, sporting or not, from the dawn of time.